This is my first post, so go easy on me.
Silkscreen issues:
1) There are two R1's - one should be R17.
2) D1 designation is missing
3) C11 designation is missing
4) There are two R12's. One should be R15.
That's all I found.
Thx,
BF
Hi,
Pl see attached file as a reference for silk screen designations. Terry slightly modified the layout to improve it. Other than that both have been tested and no issues. BTW I used 300pF caps for C2 C4 C8.
reg
Prasi
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FX8: Thanks, and questions
Prasi,
Thank you for responding. You are correct. I was posting about Still4given's copy of your layout. I used your layout to confirm what appeared to be minor defects in his.
Speaking of your layout, however, I have a few questions for you, too:
Where did C10 and C11 came from? I don't see them on Mile's original schematic, and haven't been able to spot the correction in the various posts...
Is there something against posting a Bill of Materials for FX8? I have created one, of course, but was surprised to not see one. I don't want to interfere with someone's (Apex Audio?) commercial activities, of course.
Is Q1 deliberately oriented to face Q2? If not, then wouldn't a 180 deg rotation of Q1 create several simpler routings in that area of the board?
Thx,
BF
Prasi,
Thank you for responding. You are correct. I was posting about Still4given's copy of your layout. I used your layout to confirm what appeared to be minor defects in his.
Speaking of your layout, however, I have a few questions for you, too:
Where did C10 and C11 came from? I don't see them on Mile's original schematic, and haven't been able to spot the correction in the various posts...
Is there something against posting a Bill of Materials for FX8? I have created one, of course, but was surprised to not see one. I don't want to interfere with someone's (Apex Audio?) commercial activities, of course.
Is Q1 deliberately oriented to face Q2? If not, then wouldn't a 180 deg rotation of Q1 create several simpler routings in that area of the board?
Thx,
BF
1. Its a good practice generally to locally bypass rails with elco caps, Rod Elliott recommends ( see P3). I did it for Fx-8. Also See Fx 9 schematic, Mr. Mile has incorporated those.Prasi,
Thank you for responding. You are correct. I was posting about Still4given's copy of your layout. I used your layout to confirm what appeared to be minor defects in his.
Speaking of your layout, however, I have a few questions for you, too:
Where did C10 and C11 came from? I don't see them on Mile's original schematic, and haven't been able to spot the correction in the various posts...
Is there something against posting a Bill of Materials for FX8? I have created one, of course, but was surprised to not see one. I don't want to interfere with someone's (Apex Audio?) commercial activities, of course.
Is Q1 deliberately oriented to face Q2? If not, then wouldn't a 180 deg rotation of Q1 create several simpler routings in that area of the board?
Thx,
BF
2. Since this is a simple circuit, one can easily read off the layout and most parts are easily available anyway, so nobody bothers with a BOM. Mr. Mile is generous enough to post his designs for us diyers. Many times he has stated, there is no commercial interest.
3. Q1 /Q2 orientation, Mr.Mile can answer that one.
Is Q1 deliberately oriented to face Q2? If not, then wouldn't a 180 deg rotation of Q1 create several simpler routings in that area of the board?
Facing to each other they can easily be tied up together (to thermally couple them) using cable tie. Sometimes people use a little heat compound between the surfaces. Not a must of course.
But don't be fooled by the words "simpler routing", especially if it doesn't correlate to "proper routing".
Is Q1 deliberately oriented to face Q2? If not, then wouldn't a 180 deg rotation of Q1 create several simpler routings in that area of the board?
To clarify, I also rotated Q1 for better routing (but still touching Q2) and in original Apex' PCB they are not face to face either (see attachment).
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Hi all,
Had a moment to put it on my floor-standers and listened to bollywood tracks as well as 'wish you were here' and as suspected, they sound simply amazing. After Terry, I too confirm that bass is super strong and solid along with sweet sounding mids and highs. So, Thimios, etch yourself a pair and see (listen) for yourself, you wont be disappointed and give a break for the poor little laterals (although I have to agree VSSA is a wee-bit leaner in bass region (may be my build quality, I can not comment )).
Heat sink: As soon as I tried to blast a little, heat sink started getting too hot to touch and I had to switch on fan to keep it cool. Will reduce the bias to 50-70mA and test again.
Thank you for this wonder "little" amp Mr. Mile.
reg
Prasi
disclaimer: the views presented here are totally subjective and not supported by measurements😉
Had a moment to put it on my floor-standers and listened to bollywood tracks as well as 'wish you were here' and as suspected, they sound simply amazing. After Terry, I too confirm that bass is super strong and solid along with sweet sounding mids and highs. So, Thimios, etch yourself a pair and see (listen) for yourself, you wont be disappointed and give a break for the poor little laterals (although I have to agree VSSA is a wee-bit leaner in bass region (may be my build quality, I can not comment )).
Heat sink: As soon as I tried to blast a little, heat sink started getting too hot to touch and I had to switch on fan to keep it cool. Will reduce the bias to 50-70mA and test again.
Thank you for this wonder "little" amp Mr. Mile.
reg
Prasi
disclaimer: the views presented here are totally subjective and not supported by measurements😉
Hi,
Pl see attached file as a reference for silk screen designations. Terry slightly modified the layout to improve it. Other than that both have been tested and no issues. BTW I used 300pF caps for C2 C4 C8.
reg
Prasi
Hi Prasi,
Where did the 330p come from? I don't see a schematic with those. It is stable with 100p so I'm not sure anything is to be gained by going higher.
Benz,
Good catch. I guess none of us caught it because the values are there. Makes sense that you would catch it when making a BOM. I have a very large supply of parts so I rarely fool with a BOM, especially if it is a small amp like this. I'm attaching an updated silk.
Edit: I am including a file for Thimios
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Hi Prasi,
Where did the 330p come from? I don't see a schematic with those. It is stable with 100p so I'm not sure anything is to be gained by going higher.
Hi Terry,
It was on Mr. Mile's layout. Post #6174 http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/soli...imate-fidelity-amplifier-618.html#post4605393
reg
Prasi
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Where did the 330p come from? I don't see a schematic with those.
This FX8 has some of the flattest 50hz square waves i have ever seen. There is a tad of overshoot in the higher frequencies. I used 100p per the schematic. Mile's layout seems to use 330p. I don't have those in stock so i stayed with the 100p.
Sprint file for A15.
Also finished layout for FX9 I need to recheck for mistakes.
Nice FX9 pcb.. replace 10k with 15k...
Regards
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Are you trying to make a point? Some text on your part would be helpful.
I am/was confused what you were asking regarding the 330p, because I knew about it the first time from your post above. You might be asking something else I don't know...
Sprint file for A15.
Nice work! Thank you for sharing your Sprint file.
Also finished layout for FX9 I need to recheck for mistakes.
There are no local decoupling caps for the op amp.
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Back to my question...is it best to use 100pf, 330pf or does it matter?
Matter? May be a little. Very little. Terry had mentioned the issue with HF and that it is still okay with 100pF. I prefer to keep no more than 100pF between driver's collector and base. The input filter is okay with bigger capacitance.
Back to my question...is it best to use 100pf, 330pf or does it matter?
Use 100pF.
Regards
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