Reading some of Ben Goldacre's work he does suggest that the establishment has realised that the placebo effect is amazingly real and that the doctors bedside manner is up to 50% of the cure. whether this is viewed as non-traditional, or just traditional I don't know.
You require an academic nob to tell you that ?
Put on a white coat with some impressive stuff dangling out the breast pocket, and you have to be careful they don't lick your fingers off if you reach out your hand.
Secondary effect : once they've seen the white flag flashing, they don't listen, not to anything.
Half an hour later, without the whitey on a lunch break in the shopping center nextdoor, they won't give you a 2nd glance.
Unless they're regular (former) patients and know your face. Occurs several times a month when my g/f and me are somewhere.
Which sometimes can become embarrassing, couple of weeks ago we were stuck in a elevator with an old patient of hers, almost went down on her hands and knees. (in my g/f's case, somewhat understandable, she's a bit of a god in her field)
Works both ways, there's a lot of emulating/rooster* behaviour in the medical world. Our GP is fully aware that both my g/f and I outclass him in non-generic knowledge, yet on every occasion he feels he has to prove/demonstrate his abilities. (JS)
Somewhat fatiguing, the non-educated world was easier, just punch someone in the face once and/or warn you'll fck him up in public next time.
* Very similar to this forum
Put on a white coat with some impressive stuff dangling out the breast pocket, and you have to be careful they don't lick your fingers off if you reach out your hand.
Secondary effect : once they've seen the white flag flashing, they don't listen, not to anything.
Half an hour later, without the whitey on a lunch break in the shopping center nextdoor, they won't give you a 2nd glance.
Unless they're regular (former) patients and know your face. Occurs several times a month when my g/f and me are somewhere.
Which sometimes can become embarrassing, couple of weeks ago we were stuck in a elevator with an old patient of hers, almost went down on her hands and knees. (in my g/f's case, somewhat understandable, she's a bit of a god in her field)
Works both ways, there's a lot of emulating/rooster* behaviour in the medical world. Our GP is fully aware that both my g/f and I outclass him in non-generic knowledge, yet on every occasion he feels he has to prove/demonstrate his abilities. (JS)
Somewhat fatiguing, the non-educated world was easier, just punch someone in the face once and/or warn you'll fck him up in public next time.
* Very similar to this forum
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No, but its nice for the metadata to actually prove it. That way no arguments from either side 🙂
My ex's sister had a bad car accident and damaged her back. It was over a year before she was finally sent to a pain management specialist, who worked wonders. Just telling her 'whatever you want to be able to do, we'll make sure you can do it" put her in the right frame of mind.
Twenty years ago, slicing you open was generally plan A as the surgeons ruled the roost. Nowdays its plan G and I approve. Although they cut it a bit fine with Wife's emergency C-section 3 months ago.
Tell your g/f I have great admiration for what she does and even more for taking you on 😛
My ex's sister had a bad car accident and damaged her back. It was over a year before she was finally sent to a pain management specialist, who worked wonders. Just telling her 'whatever you want to be able to do, we'll make sure you can do it" put her in the right frame of mind.
Twenty years ago, slicing you open was generally plan A as the surgeons ruled the roost. Nowdays its plan G and I approve. Although they cut it a bit fine with Wife's emergency C-section 3 months ago.
Tell your g/f I have great admiration for what she does and even more for taking you on 😛
I have a great relationship with my doctor.
Possibly we are about the same age and, as it turns out, we have the same IQ.
Possibly we are about the same age and, as it turns out, we have the same IQ.
My GP stuck his finger up my bum hole, despite me requesting him for a PSA blood test.
Then he asked if his Greek apprentice could also have a go, before he handed me the lab order form.
Not sure what my relationship is with him.
(it should be obvious that I'm a tiresome individual, off the web even more so)
Then he asked if his Greek apprentice could also have a go, before he handed me the lab order form.
Not sure what my relationship is with him.
(it should be obvious that I'm a tiresome individual, off the web even more so)
Carefully designed acupuncture studies (that blind both the acupuncturist AND the patient) generally show that there's nothing important about location of the needles (there goes the acu part), and that the perception of a needle stick is equally effective to actually having the needle truly stuck. The latter was tested via a clever contraption that has a glue on-tip so the needle just sticks to the surface instead (there goes the puncture part).
So the best explanation left is that it's a fairly effective (with certain parts of the population) theatrical placebo. Given the topic of pain, that may have some merit, but I remain awfully skeptical.
I like things that have reliable evidence and even better reliable underpinnings as to their origin.
So the best explanation left is that it's a fairly effective (with certain parts of the population) theatrical placebo. Given the topic of pain, that may have some merit, but I remain awfully skeptical.
I like things that have reliable evidence and even better reliable underpinnings as to their origin.
In general scientist have agreed to stop studying it because it comes back as a placebo. However if a placebo works... It works.
According to all of the studies in Cochrane, acupuncture is a mild, short-term placebo with such dangers as puncture of the lung, nerve damage, capillary damage, infections, and masking of symptoms of a serious disease. Why would anyone put their health at such serious potential risk just to feel slightly better for a short time?
It is called "alternative medicine' for a reason; because it isn't 'real medicine" that treats you for real health problems. All of these alt-meds fritter around the periphery because they do not have to use a scalpel eventually.
Then one can readily see the analog here with audio perception of 'phantom effect' devices, I think. It's all part of the human condition............
Like banging yourself full of drugs to get to work when you should be having a day off ill that many people do. People put their health at risk every day.
The big takeaway is that if people think they will get better they are more likely to get better. That is good. And all proved with blind testing.
The research is then used to fleece gullible audiophiles. That is bad.
I rarely watch movies or TV. I don't read novels or short stories either - its been like that for at least 30 years with me. Its all imaginary bs not linked to reality and a complete waste of time. My wife does those things.
If I do watch TV, its NatGeo, Discovery, BBC Knowledge or the news.
Well Marathon man was 1976 so no excuse!
I watched Prof Cox trying to explain time last night in a way that normal people could understand. He got to travel to lots of interesting places and see lots of shiny equipment but not sure he succeeded!
I watched Prof Cox trying to explain time last night in a way that normal people could understand. He got to travel to lots of interesting places and see lots of shiny equipment but not sure he succeeded!
No BS mains cable by vd Hul for you, Mr. Russell. (you can kiss that goodbye at Xmas time)
A placebo by definition does not work, rather it is an experimental control to gauge the statistical effect of the item under test. So when in a drug trial half of the patients are given placebo sugar pills while the other half receive the experimental treatment, the analysis will compare the improvement seen with the experimental treatment to that seen with the sugar pills. The experimental treatment will be deemed ineffective if the results show it having an effect that is not statistically different than placebo. So placebo is the standard of failure, not success.
As an example, one could design an experiment where Bybees are the experimental treatment and matched value resistors are the placebo. Blind listening comparisons would elicit the ability of listeners to distinguish the Bybees from the resistors. If the statistics showed that listeners could not distinguish the Bybees from the resistors, then Bybees would be judged ineffective. Those who are seeking placebo "benefit" would be much wiser to buy the resistor!
As an example, one could design an experiment where Bybees are the experimental treatment and matched value resistors are the placebo. Blind listening comparisons would elicit the ability of listeners to distinguish the Bybees from the resistors. If the statistics showed that listeners could not distinguish the Bybees from the resistors, then Bybees would be judged ineffective. Those who are seeking placebo "benefit" would be much wiser to buy the resistor!
So how come, when tests were done where some people were given 2 placebo pills each time and some 3, the group with 3 showed statistically better rates of recovery? The pill does not work, but the effect is very real.
If it can be proven that those devices can only have zero effect.
For Mr Bybee's goods, all the relevant facts and data are present to support that they're indeed beads and mirrors.
Call me stupid, is there a reliable and independent source that can relate to me what Mr. Bybee did at/for the military ?
The actual what and when please.
* I've tried accupuncture to quit smoking, worked beautifully.
(trouble is, without cigarettes, massive quantities of alcohol or drugs, marathon sex or 15 hour work days, it's a matter of time before my adrenaline level reaches overload. I took up smoking again within a month, after I started to hit walls/mirrors/lamps, to prevent me from physically attacking people. Peyton Westlake as Darkman, not Johnny boy and his Sinistra paralysis lip)
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