So how do the Bybees fit into the circuit? And why is it different from the many other power conditioners out there?
So you claim the Bybee is a filter... How is it filtering one wonders, could it be this secret magic ingredient surrounding the resistor, that is a confidential military product that no one can know about, yet audiophiles can buy it on an open market....
Doesn't add up to me....
Neither can it be bought from a reputable component supplier, just those that delve in to black magic.....
Why am I not surprised... Support the beliefs keep the congregation happy with your words of wisdom...
Like your comment on commercial power conditioners, derogatory and biased toward the fallacy that an audiophile power conditioner is superior... 🙄
beryllium resistor
Discussed to death in an earlier thread...
Why get the devices with the end caps soldered on when he has to remove them...
This is the same stuff that you have spouted before regarding these devices, a resistor with a load of stuff round it the only thing that can be measured is the value of the resistor.... so the stuff round it is for show...
Post #642 from the post I presumed the power conditioner built had 9 Bybees in it....
According to https://mysticalnumbers.com/number-9, nine is the number of magic, amongst many other things.........
It is also the sum of the factorials of the first three integers, which surely can't be a coincidence.
Hey, I could be good at this........😉
First off many power conditioners work just fine. However almost none deploy resonance control of any kind. That immediately makes a unit potentially to harm sound when used with many SMPS supplies (especially hypex).
They all generally lower noise, but some use things that harm sound. I don't know why but repeated trial uses of ferrites that do a 360° wrap around wire always seem to produce poor sound, for example. They measure nice until you have to listen to one. For years I've been trying to employ one now and again but it's always an audible failure. Maybe deployed on single wires instead of the three could work.
I place Bybees directly at the socket. It would seem if what they do isn't huge attenuation, then do it when there's as little noise left as possible to get the most benefit; and mounting at this point reduces sharing among devices since they have their own set per socket.
Perhaps JohnC's nice system didn't have good enough conditioning to easily pick out. Bybee vs. not. Then again there's 17x in an 8 socket unit... Maybe easier then.
A hex on you sir, I thought 8 was the magical number (but then I do get my eldritch references from Mr Pratchett)...
The ferrite thing is an audio myth... heard it mentioned loads of times but no proof what so ever... Its just embedded in the belief system in my humble opinion.
I hear myths as well, like IEC filters are ok. Strangely equipment always sounds better without them.... From an engineering perspective they contain hot to neutral Y caps which are a nuisance on many systems as they can add noise.
8, 9 - what's a parity error between friends ?
Out of idle curiosity, I wonder what properties might an 'anti-bybee' be claimed to have.......... ?
Different parameters...
You can understand and measure that with Y caps.... I have never seen any measurements that show ferrites having an effect at audio frequencies.
An anti-bybee maybe that's what ferrites are, they bugger up the electrons, make them less slippy....
Opposite direction of electron quantum spin you mean.........I could really be good at this 😉
That's simply not true. Even the first time I saw this I immediately thought the moiuth and sound didn't sync. You brain tells you what the eyes see and you try and fit that to what you hear, but in this case it doesn't work. My eyes and ears combine tell me it does not compute.
What gets me about the Bybees is that they are passive devices, so unless the content of the signal was known, and the noise components that were most important always the same hoiw could they be expected to have a beneficial effect?
It defies logic.
OS, I have had the same experience with both ferrites (I compared them with the Bybee), and standard IEC filters, as well as with serious commercial line conditioners. The Bybee did something good (usually) and the other devices did at least as much audio damage as they cleared up something important. The 'why' is probably in the NON-LINEARITY of the parts, (ferrite, ceramic, MOV's) that are used instead of linear parts that would be much more expensive, etc.
That illusion works well for me. In any event, expectation bias pervades life's experiences and perceptions - it's rife. It would be quite extraordinary if it didn't extend to, say, placebo audio devices..............
McGurk is a very convincing demonstration of two things: most humans are programmed to have visual inputs take precedence over conflicting audible inputs; and we are all lip readers whether or not we realize it.
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