Have you discovered a digital source, that satisfies you, as much as your Turntable?

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Sure - my own design (Ozone), though its not packaged anywhere near a complete kit. You still have to do plenty of spadework to turn it into a build as I've not designed any PCBs. There are a couple of schematics to get you started in my posts on this thread - http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/262434-comparing-dacs-real-life-es9023-new-1543-a.html

Its only 16bits/44k1 in its present incarnation so hires isn't supported. But if there was enough interest I think its possible to modify the design to support higher rates. More bits though would take a fair amount more work.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...mparing-dacs-real-life-es9023-new-1543-a.html
 
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abraxalito said:
Sure - my own design (Ozone), though its not packaged anywhere near a complete kit. You still have to do plenty of spadework to turn it into a build as I've not designed any PCBs. There are a couple of schematics to get you started in my posts on this thread - http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-line-level/262434-comparing-dacs-real-life-es9023-new-1543-a.html

Its only 16bits/44k1 in its present incarnation so hires isn't supported. But if there was enough interest I think its possible to modify the design to support higher rates. More bits though would take a fair amount more work.
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digi...mparing-dacs-real-life-es9023-new-1543-a.html
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I read your thread.. What-up with the Jean-Paul nonsense🙄

A good 16/44khz DAC is a good place to start, maybe.. I could compare it to My Asus Xonar Essence ST.. Later look at HiRez version

If you don't mind I'll PM you?
 
#64
By all means PM me - it'll be great if you'd like to build an Ozone. I used to listen to an Asus Xonar Essence ST - this is going back maybe 4 or 5 years. The Ozone comfortably destroys that - not just on instrument tonality (the Asus - even after some opamp modding - corrupts brass timbre for example) but also very notably on dynamics.
 
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abraxalito said:
By all means PM me - it'll be great if you'd like to build an Ozone. I used to listen to an Asus Xonar Essence ST - this is going back maybe 4 or 5 years. The Ozone comfortably destroys that - not just on instrument tonality (the Asus - even after some opamp modding - corrupts brass timbre for example) but also very notably on dynamics.
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Good News.. Thanks, and I was near on taking the opamp upgrade path for essence
Interested in PCB possibility too.. Pm tomorrow.
 
#67
I have two refurbished TD-124s and a small fleet of modern Ortofon SPUs all of which I quite enjoy, however I also own a Sony HAP-Z1ES which manages to sound quite good (still competitive at least with my better MKII turntable when playing the best vinyl in my house) and is a whole lot more convenient. Really good vinyl seems to convey more of the excitement of a performance than any digital material I currently have, but the vinyl is not perfection either. It's all flawed in some way, I will admit to having a definite preference for vinyl, but only when the energy is there to deal with the effort involved.. I will admit that getting up to turn over the record halfway through while annoying is a lot healthier based on how my legs feel after a protracted listening session.

The Sony is actually a pretty nice solution and one I can recommend. Nice one box solution although a PC is required to load music into it, just like an iPod.. lol
 
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Joel Wesseling said:
The question is primarily for the Guys and girls, who have a quality LP setup(for proper comparison), that have been trying to find a digital source, to compete with the excellent sound of LP's.. By competing, I mean , when you play a digital source, you say, wow, now I can hear the same detail and resolution, recorded spaciousness, naturalness and liquidity, as LP's..

Any dedicated LP lovers, who have reached digital heaven?
what digital components are you using?
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hi joel,

when we had heard music like natural , sound of instrument very clear .
but during my experience setting my TT for get that , I must try hard for it.
until now i have not get sound like i want. the sound like natural but i can not get good staging of that. i'm learning for how to setting my LP.

if i used cdp / digtal . i have not tired for setting VTA and ect... digital very easy and let them to work.
for digital we can get staging like natural but the sound of vocal and instrument not natural, full coloration and flavor depending what we have used a part..

for both, there are more and less, depending on the taste of people.

regards
ed
 
#69
I much prefer LPs but this is because I prefer older performances (mostly classical) on mono LPs and 78's. They are not always available on CD, except for the mainstream, and when they are, very often the mastering leaves a lot to be desired, perhaps because of a wish to create a sound which is more acceptable to modern listening habits. I have also made an enormously greater effort with my LP equipment although my CD players are decent enough.
 
#70
I spend a lot of time tweaking my arm and cartridge on Hyperspace..when It's right it's pure magic.. I removed the arm to try it on a 3R and when I put it back on Hyperspace and did a 20 minute setup it wasn't as good as original and had to continue adjusting..

I have this record Audio System Test Record Sound Canada LP Sealed | eBay

It was produced by Floyd Tool at McGill University.. It has good test tracks, one in particular is anti-skating noise with five levels, you can listen to the noise and adjust for L/R balance..
 
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piano3 said:
I much prefer LPs but this is because I prefer older performances (mostly classical) on mono LPs and 78's. They are not always available on CD, except for the mainstream, and when they are, very often the mastering leaves a lot to be desired, perhaps because of a wish to create a sound which is more acceptable to modern listening habits. I have also made an enormously greater effort with my LP equipment although my CD players are decent enough.
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The mastering and pressing is amazing for Mosaic LP's - Miles Davis Live at the Plugged Nickel..

Do You have a mono Cartridge?
 
#73
May be , my vinyl not audiophile , i have not a lot vinyl... because i have intersting with vinyl newbie...
Before i exited with my digital.... i have bougth diy CDT (phillps cdpro2) module from Guido "tentlabs" . My profil image, and old cdt krell upgrade of replace cap with BG.
DAC audionote kit.. replace alll cap and R and add tansfomer and suply for dac board.
Enjoy with my digital.

After i have heard a vinyl.... i said amazing sound like really and natural.... like instrument playing on me.
This is never i heard..... and starting to search how about analog ..... vinyl....like i said...... that are difficult for me to setting... i'm not expert.... i still learning..
Number One .. i Am not like..... our must standup back to record for lifting arm and start again and again...... ha..... ha... lazyman....... going to old...
But other that i like..... falling love to analog....... i say second wife...... make my wife jelous.... ha.. ha.....
But i said i have not the toys for playing.... and now my darling fully smile when her look me and my second wife.... and her come to join with me. As joke.... buddy..

Joel... thankyou for information about good vinyl. ... i will staring to looking for.... i hope can get .....

Have a nice day....

Regards
Ed.
 
#74
Joel, I have not invested in a mono cartridge but because my amplification is fully differential, it is easy to switch to lateral/vertical only response at any point in the system, i.e. there is no switch at a low signal level. This is the best compromise for me as I need vertical mono response for Edison Diamond discs, Pathe Hill and Dale, etc.
 
#75
Hi !
The only digital source that gives me satisfaction is my non- oversampling dac ( TDA 1543 * 4 based on tnt convertus ) . I tried several high-end dac most recently a minimax ( ess 9018 chip) and I prefer the non oversampling . This is the closest analog . I have two vinyl turntables lenco l75 one with an alt1 tone arm and a at120e, and the other with the original tonearm with a Denon dl110 . Phono preamp is a sp14 audioresearch.
 
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killmister said:
Hi !
The only digital source that gives me satisfaction is my non- oversampling dac ( TDA 1543 * 4 based on tnt convertus ) . I tried several high-end dac most recently a minimax ( ess 9018 chip) and I prefer the non oversampling . This is the closest analog . I have two vinyl turntables lenco l75 one with an alt1 tone arm and a at120e, and the other with an original Denon dl110 . Phono preamp is a sp14 audioresearch.
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TDA 1543 * 4 based on tnt convertus -- Can you point me to a build?
 
#77
TNT-Convertus: a minimalist DAC

I removed lowpass constitued by L201, R202 and C218 (on right out too) and i replace all 4700 uf on output stage by 220 uf elna silmic.
I put 22 uf elna silmic output capacitor decoupled by 0.33 k40y9 pio capacitor.
I use cs8414 instead cs8412.
TDA1543 are powered with 8.2v with a passive radiator, more voltage power give some crappy highs and medium and chips are too hot.
Distortion is about 0.1 % at 1 Khz /0 db. practically only even harmonics ...

This dac is amazing ! Old technology and minimalist approach (like vinyl !!!) and cool, relaxed sound, very analog with " in your face " medium, even listening to web radios in 128 kbps !! Near vinyl sound !
 
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killmister said:
TNT-Convertus: a minimalist DAC

I removed lowpass constitued by L201, R202 and C218 (on right out too) and i replace all 4700 uf on output stage by 220 uf elna silmic 2.
I put 22 uf ena silmic output capacitor decoupled by 0.33 k40y9 pio capacitor.
I use cs8414 instead cs8412.

This dac is amazing ! Old technology and minimalist approach (like vinyl !!!) and cool, relaxed sound, very analog with " in your face " medium, even listening to web radios in 128 kbps !!
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I like the organized BOM, makes it easier.. Lots of documentation..

Do you mind posting a picture, maybe you have already on the site??

Thanks!
 
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