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That's not a personality disorder, it's an unfortunate fact of life. Heck, until I met my wife, I thought I was doing ok. I didn't know how things I was doing just plain wrong.

Cal, I've heard a lot of guys saying this about their women! Jeanette, my wife is not like this at all it's one of the things I really love about her. Yes I think in general its true though that most women seem to think it's their job to fix the men they are in relationships with. Any theories as to why? I'm sure it has something to do with their mothers.....it usually is!

Gordon.
 
Bipolar is, to a large degree a physical illness and can be treated with drugs, BPD can not. Its a personality thing and hard to diagnose. Who decides where on the "personality" bell curve the boderline exists.


Ive done the research before, who decides ? you can decide yourself unofficially of course using the guidelines. Once an official diagnoses is made it's like a death sentence in the professional community eg not likely cured with drugs and make very very difficult patients.
 
Bipolar is, to a large degree a physical illness and can be treated with drugs, BPD can not. Its a personality thing and hard to diagnose. Who decides where on the "personality" bell curve the boderline exists.

Yes there is a huge debate in psychiatry as to whether or not personality disorders can be treated.

Regarding the borderline at which normal crosses over to abnormal one of our lecturers in the psyche nursing course suggested that we are all on a continuum some more "abnormal" than others but all of us having some degree of abnormal psychology. The actual term borderline personality disorder refers to the notion that the condition lay at the very boundary where neuroses crosses over into psychosis.

Gordon.
 
Gordon.

Actually my wife is the sweetest, friendliest, nicest, most caring woman in the world. I absolutely adore her. She is my best friend and my soul mate. It's just that when something goes wrong, it's my fault even if I'm not there. Why? Who knows, I simply accept it and realize that she's 99% perfect and I'm on top of the world 99% of the time.
 
Do you think that meat you hunt and butcher yourself tastes better?

Definitely!

Also you seem to be a really cool guy for someone who's into hunting. In the UK most hunters are Upper class ***** who got buggered stupid in our great British fee paying school system!

In the last sentence the word buggered is meant both figuratively and litteraly.

I understand that hunting is viewed differently around the world and I am aware that in some places it is only for the elite and in other places it is only for the poorest people.

Where I live, it is neither. It is mostly middle-class people who hunt here. Also, the popularity of hunting is on the rise and the biggest gains in numbers are, surprisingly, coming from the cities. "Hipster hunters" and other city-dwellers are the fastest growing segment of new hunters.

The reasons for this are the same reasons why I started hunting; the health and moral implications of eating industrial meat. In fact, many people who might otherwise choose to become vegetarians are turning to hunting. Even people who have been vegetarians for years are beginning to see hunting as an alternative.

When I chose to start hunting (very late in life) it was because I decided to stop eating industrial meat. I decided for both health reasons and moral reasons. This conversation becomes political at some point, but suffice it to say that I hunt for many of the same reasons why people become vegetarians.

I do, in fact, have much more in common with (and much more respect for) vegetarians/vegans, than I do for meat-eating anti-hunters.

I don't know any hunters who hunt because they like to kill things. I also don't know any hunters who hunt because they want a trophy on their wall. I am sure there are some, but they are the minority. At least, where I live and hunt that is true.

I am blessed to live in a place on the earth that has plentiful game, all of which is monitored and harvest rates are controlled to ensure that there will be game for generations to come.

When I make the choice to harvest an animal for food, I am very mindful of the sacrifice that is made and the responsibility I have to ensure the proper care of the meat. I use as much of the animal as I can and we eat the meat sparingly and with much appreciation.

Every step of the process, from the field to the table, is an exercise of great care. When we sit down to eat, there is an immense sense of connectedness with our food.

We garden vegetables and harvest wild mushrooms and herbs for the same reasons. It is all about care, and quality. It all takes time, effort and care, that is what connects us to the food.
 
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Originally posted by cogitech: The reasons for this are the same reasons why I started hunting; the health and moral implications of eating industrial meat.

This is a good point that many of the meat eating anti hunters fail to consider. The treatment of animals farmed en masse is pretty abhorrent when you look at the facts. I don't like it myself and was a vegetarian when I was younger and more idealistic. Now I am a sucker for the smell and taste of bacon amongst other meats, but it was the lure of the bacon that pulled me back from vegetarianism!

My eldest daughter is the same, she disagrees with the treatment of animals farmed for slaughter but too weak willed to give up on the taste of meat. She did manage about 1 week of the vegetarian diet!

Gordon.
 
This is a good point that many of the meat eating anti hunters fail to consider. The treatment of animals farmed en masse is pretty abhorrent when you look at the facts. I don't like it myself and was a vegetarian when I was younger and more idealistic. Now I am a sucker for the smell and taste of bacon amongst other meats, but it was the lure of the bacon that pulled me back from vegetarianism!

My eldest daughter is the same, she disagrees with the treatment of animals farmed for slaughter but too weak willed to give up on the taste of meat. She did manage about 1 week of the vegetarian diet!

Gordon.

Many people are very good at lying to themselves. The perfectly packaged meats in the grocery store make this act of self-deception even easier. It would not help sales much, but a truly honest package of meat would have a label which states "You are paying someone to kill a captive, tortured, medicated animal."

To commit this deception may all well be a relatively forgivable act. After all, it is also a mass deception and it is one that an entire industry depends upon.

But for those who are so good at self-deception to take it one step further and cast judgment upon hunters and refer to them as "evil killers" is simply absurd. The lie becomes something entirely different, then. The irony is; none of the self-righteous self-proclaimed judges of moral decency would be walking the planet if their ancestors had not been hunters.

This brings us back to the collective insanity that I spoke of earlier.
 
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Actually my wife is the sweetest, friendliest, nicest, most caring woman in the world. I absolutely adore her. She is my best friend and my soul mate. It's just that when something goes wrong, it's my fault even if I'm not there. Why? Who knows, I simply accept it and realize that she's 99% perfect and I'm on top of the world 99% of the time.

I think that is amazing Cal, you are very lucky. Us guys have difficulty - at least here in Scotland - in speaking openly about such things to other guys. It is great to find a fellow human being with whom you can share such a deep connection. Jeanette isn't perfect and neither am I, but we have something very special, despite or perhaps strengthened by the difficulties we've faced over the last few years since I had a stroke and had to give up work, long before my time.

Gordon.
 
two words

Food Inc

Over the past half dozen years or so, my wife has tried with limited success to drag me kicking and screaming into the full vegan diet (yes, there is a thing as too much fiber), so on the few occasions when she cooks animal flesh, it will either be locally raised non-factory/organic chicken, or fresh caught wild salmon from one of my buddies as work - she's just not a fan of lamb or game. As much as I still enjoy a cheeseburger in (our own little island ) paradise, there's no doubt that the organic is not only healthier (I'll let my doctor prescribe antibiotics for a specific infection, thank you very much) but far tastier as well.

and oh yes, if Mr Weldon is "whipped", we should all be so lucky to have such a demonstrably better half -well perhaps some of us already do.
 
Many people are very good at lying to themselves. The perfectly packaged meats in the grocery store make this act of self-deception even easier. It would not help sales much, but a truly honest package of meat would have a label which states "You are paying someone to kill a captive, tortured, medicated animal."

To commit this deception may all well be a relatively forgivable act. After all, it is also a mass deception and it is one that an entire industry depends upon.

But for those who are so good at self-deception to take it one step further and cast judgment upon hunters and refer to them as "evil killers" is simply absurd. The lie becomes something entirely different, then. The irony is; none of the self-righteous self-proclaimed judges of moral decency would be walking the planet if their ancestors had not been hunters.

This brings us back to the collective insanity that I spoke of earlier.

The issue of how we eat and cultivate food in industrialized countries is a very good example of this collective insanity. Our entire concept of food as you suggest, is a delusion that insulates us from the actual reality of how the food we eat is produced. In fact this process of insulation seems to be very much a common theme in our industrialized cultures. We live in our heads at the expense of our emotional and physical experiences.
 
Gordon,

It is nice to hear that she has stuck by your side and makes you feel special during what is so often a very trying time. I like her already.

Hanh is from Vietnam. Came to Canada in 1990. We are very different people who have learned much from each other. I used to be independent but now I would fail miserably without her. It also doesn't hurt that a lady in her 50's resembles the babysitter. Keeps the fire burning bright.
 
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