No from having a basic understanding of physics and how currents flow...
Ok pre-emptive tear down ..... 🙂

Thanks for the input, Dan. I hope to do my own measurements soon, and I know that they will not be just a noise test.
Why John ? why cant Jack provide his own measurements , after all he is the one making the claims .... 🙄
Ok pre-emptive tear down ..... 🙂![]()
I would love to see an explanation how the Bybees make the electrons flow smoother even after they have passed trough the Bybee (which they wont do in a ac field such as music, and as they only travel slowly would take an hour just to pass through the device if not longer.
Jack made measurements, and I put them up here. They were discounted, like everything else.
One sheet of paper, no test setup, no way to duplicate, an uncontrolled environment, no discussion of neutral currents of one phase in a 3 phase environment.
Anybody can circle squiggles and make up their own hand waving explanation.
jn
From what I understand by prior experimentation with other 'gizmos', the presence of the Bybee influences the T&M system also, hence rendering a null test resultant.
That's why I am saying that I am still working out how to measure their effect.
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The what?
Test & Measurement system
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George
Oh really?
That's your discussion and refutation???
""Oh really?""
GMAB..
jn
The scientific method does not require instrumental measurements, just repeatable evidence. Simply put the device in question to a double blind listening test.
I would love to see an explanation how the Bybees make the electrons flow smoother even after they have passed trough the Bybee (which they wont do in a ac field such as music, and as they only travel slowly would take an hour just to pass through the device if not longer.
What does that have to do with hearing a difference, he said he heard a difference, everyone i have ever spoken to hear a difference, so it's obviously doing something. If JC, SY, Scott and Bybee cant explain , then enjoy.
I'm sure you can enjoy a drink without knowing it's chem trail ... 🙂
I just talked to Jack over the phone and I told him about JN's criticism of the AMES measurement. We both laughed.
I just talked to Jack over the phone and I told him about JN's criticism of the AMES measurement. We both laughed.
So, no discussion or relevant engineering? That's your idea of refutation??
I repeat....GMAB.
Tis better you two laugh than try to discuss the engineering details of an ill-performed test...
I'm sure there are gullible people out there willing to believe pseudoscience.
jn
I just talked to Jack over the phone and I told him about JN's criticism of the AMES measurement. We both laughed.
Ahhh, Let me , SY, Jn, Scott ........
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Ahhh, Let me , SY, Jn, Scott ........
Oh great, now I need a new keyboard.
Next time, warn me before I sip my coffee....😱
jn
I don't prefer tweaked sound, rather that often when you listen to live sound you're not in an optimum space or position to hear the sound. Microphones are usually placed in the best possible orientation to pick up the event, so high quality reproduction of what they've registered may often be superior to what a casual listener at the same venue would have heard.I suspect you are adding "correctness", as a chef adds seasoning, while all the time sincerely believing that you are removing imperfections. You have already admitted that you sometimes prefer your tweaked sound to the original instrument, so we know your goal is not "hi-fi".
Since the quality of reproduction I'm after is not often heard it may be difficult to comprehend how it comes across, subjectively. This is why I use the word "convincing" often, because that is precisely how the sense of the experience registers. Normal audio comes across as a 'performance', by the equipment in front of you, mimicing what's on the recording. Convincing audio totally dominates your listening awareness, causes other, local to the room sounds to fade into the background - the musical event you're listening to becomes ascendant, especially as realistic volume levels; it's an extremely satisfying experience, where you feel as one with the music. If this is a 'distortion', then so is listening to the equivalent, live music ...
Edit: AJT mentions knowing "live" music when you hear it - high quality audio will eliminate the distinguishing characteristics.
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Good to hear you making progress, Dan. I wish you luck with DiffMaker, I have some something bordering on contempt for that software - however, you may be lucky enough to get something useful ... 😉It may well be that Diffmaker will extract the difference....David, the difference is audible quite clearly, so I expect that the difference signal is not very low in amplitude.
So far, it seems that low level system noise (level and spectrum) has a greater subjective effect than I have to date given credence to.
I am intentionally using a 'rough' system for this part of my subjective testing.
Low level distortions, 'noise', is what it's all about - not at all surprised at the impact with the 'rough' system ...
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