I have the 15/15b. Just soldered them in. Exactly as per your drawing. Except I only have one shield....I connected the black and white to common. You may add the gray to common as well. Or to the ground output...I really don't think it matters. Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong anyone...anyone? The grey wire should be connected to...anyone? Ferris? Anyone?. 🙂
Just letting my Cinemags burn in before I give them a serious listen.
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Hi Bas,
Would you, or anybody else, think the quality or the kind of the 10Kresister on the secondary side of the transformer matters?
Like it does on the I/V of the DAC? (I wired here four handmade resistors like EC does in his 1541thread. Made a difference.)
I wonder...
Ed
Hi Bas,
Would you, or anybody else, think the quality or the kind of the 10Kresister on the secondary side of the transformer matters?
Like it does on the I/V of the DAC? (I wired here four handmade resistors like EC does in his 1541thread. Made a difference.)
I wonder...
Ed
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If you hear it and like it then it matters......I think it will no doubt flavour the output side of the transformer. I'm waiting and saving to get the dac and for Bas to let us know his findings on the Magnequests or the Cinemags.....
Hi Ken,
what makes you think a higher voltage would lower life span? It is only the analog section which runs at the higher voltage. On other Projects I have had very positive experience running Chips at higher voltage without any Problems. The proof will be in the eating though 😉
mmmmmmm crunchy DAC chip. The 1543 runs no worries at Doede's voltages so I see no worries with the 1794. Mind I'm still saving for a set......
I'm one who believes almost everything matters. But if something sounds as right as Doede's DAC I'm not too bothered about a single resistor here or there. I can't even be bothered about the resistors that come standard with the DAC. Even though there may be better ones. I will try the odd cap and/or transformer though 🙂
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Hi, Doede,
Supply voltage is a basic semiconductor breakdown acceleration factor. While part of this breakdown acceleration is power dissipation related, a greater part is typically due to an increase in semiconductor junction leakage current carriers as Vcc is increased, leading to failure of the junction.
Chips are routinely operated at elevated voltages and temperatures to rapidly 'age' them to determine their expected long reliability, or MTBF. Maybe, think of it this way, if the chip is nominally designed to operate at up to 6.5 volts Vcc for some number of years, and immediately failed at 11 volts Vcc in your tests, then there is some implied curve between those two voltages which plots the expected lifespan of the chip versus Vcc.
Therefore, an 8 volts Vcc can be expected to shorten chip lifespan more than if it were operated at 5 or 6.5 volts Vcc. Perhaps, by a relatively significant amount, since the datasheet specifies a maximum Vcc of 6.5 volts.
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I am afraid this could become a very long discussion... So let’s not start a long thread in a thread about it. All true you state, but also undefined in terms of time. Let’s consider this: If VA is 5 Volt and the output is zero volts (as per datasheet) the voltage over the current source is 5 volt right? Now I have 8 Volt and an output of 2,7V DC, so over the current source is 5,3V. May be after all it will last long enough. I guess TI designed their chips for continuous operation for 20 years or so? Most Audio hobbyist, use only a fraction of this time actually playing music. I guess we are good….
Hi, Doede,
Perhaps, I should clearly state that I have no desire to pour cold water on your DAC project. In fact, I find your suggestion to simply raise the PCM1794A's analog supply voltage in order to obtain greater signal voltage complience amplitude (while maintaining low distortion) when utilizing a passive resistor I/V, to be clever. It's the kind of solution which only seems obvious after it's been proposed. I've been working with the PCM1794A in a passive resistor I/V implementation for some time myself, so I was very intrigued by this elegantly simple solution to the problem of obtaining greater signal amplitude without resorting to an active analog output stage.
However, my background in the semiconductor industry tells me that increasing the Vcc will almost certainly shorten chip lifespan. By what amount it will be shortened seems the only question to me. While I agree that the bias voltage appearing across the PCM1794A's output current sources due to increasing the Vcc will be greatly mitigated by the increased bias voltage appearing across the now larger value I/V resistors, you can bet that there are other semiconductor junctions inside the the chip's analog section which remain referenced to ground, and thus will experience the full effect of any increase in Vcc.
None the less, I'm very glad to hear that you've apparently not experienced any such premature chip mortality, and I may experiment with this otherwise interesting technique on my own PCM1794A passive I/V DAC board. 🙂
Must be catching, I've been pretty lazy at home most of the summer too. 😀
Considering the price, I'll probably just order a pair of Cinemags and try them for myself.
Perhaps try to set up a GB. We got them for a very decent price in 2005 with the DIYAUDIO GB. 🙂