Full range driver in black plastic fish bowl.....
Hi all,
Well I have been planning many DIY projects over the last few months, but decided to start off small and simple. I need a small close to the wall pair of kitchen speakers - cheap and cheerful, so.......
I am looking for a little advice on driver choice....
I have bought 2x 'Black plastic gold fish bowls' on evilbay - see link:
BLACK Fish Bowl For Cocktails & Party Drinks 3 Pints - Cheapest On Ebay | eBay
Cheap as chips and I thought I could stick a couple full range drivers in there and a lot of polyfill/wool and have a couple reasonably nice looking mini speakers.....
The bowls have approximately a 5 inch opening and are 3 litre volume.
So I was thinking about either porting them, or keeping them sealed and with the close wall placement putting up with a limited bass extension - they are for the kitchen so massive bass isn't a requirement.
Any suggestions on reasonable drivers that would work in a 3 litre sealed enclosure? (looking for up to £50....ish)
Thanks for your wisdom and advice in advance!
Hi all,
Well I have been planning many DIY projects over the last few months, but decided to start off small and simple. I need a small close to the wall pair of kitchen speakers - cheap and cheerful, so.......
I am looking for a little advice on driver choice....
I have bought 2x 'Black plastic gold fish bowls' on evilbay - see link:
BLACK Fish Bowl For Cocktails & Party Drinks 3 Pints - Cheapest On Ebay | eBay
Cheap as chips and I thought I could stick a couple full range drivers in there and a lot of polyfill/wool and have a couple reasonably nice looking mini speakers.....
The bowls have approximately a 5 inch opening and are 3 litre volume.
So I was thinking about either porting them, or keeping them sealed and with the close wall placement putting up with a limited bass extension - they are for the kitchen so massive bass isn't a requirement.
Any suggestions on reasonable drivers that would work in a 3 litre sealed enclosure? (looking for up to £50....ish)
Thanks for your wisdom and advice in advance!
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Hi,
I don't know about the inside, but the choice of a curved baffle is very good
for speaker location.
As long as you stuff it with acrylic wadding (?...also natural wool or felt) you won't have to worry about the internal reflections, which I presume happen homolaterally and that's bad ...
But my post had the purpose of suggesting you to add mass to the fish bowl
internally, such as tar foils from a (car) bodyshop or anything else that may put some thickness to the bowl.
You can divide the bowl by cutting it into two parts ( also not by passing by the equator 😕😱😛 ) so you can make a double reflex.
The driver....
I don't know about the inside, but the choice of a curved baffle is very good
for speaker location.
As long as you stuff it with acrylic wadding (?...also natural wool or felt) you won't have to worry about the internal reflections, which I presume happen homolaterally and that's bad ...
But my post had the purpose of suggesting you to add mass to the fish bowl
internally, such as tar foils from a (car) bodyshop or anything else that may put some thickness to the bowl.
You can divide the bowl by cutting it into two parts ( also not by passing by the equator 😕😱😛 ) so you can make a double reflex.
The driver....
Nice find on the bowls! I have been looking for spherical speaker enclosure alternatives. You probably want to mount a flat plywood face on the 5 in opening with adhesive and cutout a smaller hole for driver. Any 3 in to 4 in Tang Band full range driver will probably work. Another suggestion is the Visaton FRS8 or FR10. Also, look at Vifa TC9FD. For good sound you can't go wrong with Fostex FF85WK. You just need to run a BR or sealed box sim with WinISD to see which is ideal. Look forward to your build.
Thanks very much for your advice guys - Will get some car sound proofing self adhesive pad things from evil bay and take a look at those drivers.
will also download WinISD and have a play!
Thanks!
will also download WinISD and have a play!
Thanks!
Try also to suspend them with rubber bands, instead of firmly hanging them on somewhere....
Suspended from ceiling by the speaker cable and a second wire to point them in right direction. That would be interesting and not take up any counter space.
3 litres is likely good for a Mark Audio driver too, which model i couldnt say. Its around the volume i want for the discontinued alpair5 in sealed box.
Oooo chaps - I like the idea of suspending them from the kitchen ceiling - hadn't even thought of this - genius!
Will take a look at the mark audio drivers too. Thanks!
Will take a look at the mark audio drivers too. Thanks!
Suspending is different from hanging 🙄
😀
The spring made with the rubber band should be at nearly its max extension/tension
😀
The spring made with the rubber band should be at nearly its max extension/tension
lol. Well it might work in a rustic kitchen. And yes, hanging requires a gallows...
or in recent vernacular, just some spare time - as in
" 'sup, dude? "
"nuttin much, hanging with ma boyz"
Fish bowels? Oooo that's disgusting. 😉
Must be tiny drivers... or a very large fish... with plastic bowels... 😱
Now that was a humerous typo!!! Edited to make slightly more sense (and put less people off their food).
So guys what about a 3 inch BMR in them like this?!?
Buy Speaker Drivers Audio Driver BMR 20W 4ohm 108mm dia HiWave HIBM65C20F-4 online from RS for next day delivery.
Low Fs, looks like it would work OK in a small sealed cab....
So guys what about a 3 inch BMR in them like this?!?
Buy Speaker Drivers Audio Driver BMR 20W 4ohm 108mm dia HiWave HIBM65C20F-4 online from RS for next day delivery.
Low Fs, looks like it would work OK in a small sealed cab....
Very nice driver!
I like it!
Very nice price!
But...that dip at 2KHz which results from an impedance peak....
Maybe it's time to go with two ways, i.e. with a tweeter , and try
to put that dip even lower- under audibility threshold- by filtering the
woofer.
I like it!
Very nice price!
But...that dip at 2KHz which results from an impedance peak....
Maybe it's time to go with two ways, i.e. with a tweeter , and try
to put that dip even lower- under audibility threshold- by filtering the
woofer.
Yep - could go co-axial I guess.
But I have had another crazy thought - I could try the BMRs as up firing flooders on the kitchen worktop.
Just sit the bowls on their flat base as they were designed and use the excellent off-axis response of the BMRs to flood the kitchen.....
I think I might try this first and see how it works.....
But I have had another crazy thought - I could try the BMRs as up firing flooders on the kitchen worktop.
Just sit the bowls on their flat base as they were designed and use the excellent off-axis response of the BMRs to flood the kitchen.....
I think I might try this first and see how it works.....
Hi, co-axial might work but only with high grade engineering, such as Kef
and the pro, which utilize the cone as an extension for the horn or waveguide.
I would put some hooks ( screws with a ring ) somewhere on the sphere
and...hang...it....with...rubber bands! 😛
and the pro, which utilize the cone as an extension for the horn or waveguide.
I would put some hooks ( screws with a ring ) somewhere on the sphere
and...hang...it....with...rubber bands! 😛
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