Hi,
www.elna.co.jp
Just deal with Japan directly. You need to make decent levels of orders though.
If your business is too small thy should be able to send you to a decent (not rip-off priced) stocking distributor.
Ciao T
PS, I found that stuff made in Japan or for Japaese concerns, it is best to go direct. People like Elna JP, Alps JP etc. are quite helpful if you introduce yourself as SME Audio OEM...
I had their Japanese address, but frankly, I never dreamed they would be willing to talk to individuals. I am certainly not a volume buyer, at least by their standards.
And I suppose I was influenced by the Chinese, who very often don't even want to talk to you regarding simple samples, with them, it has to be 10,000 of whatever to even take notice. How they expect people to buy their products by the truckload without even being able to examine them, I honestly don't know.
It's a brave new world.
Anyway, thank you for the advice and pointer, Thorsten.
Hi,
Don't underplay your hand. Who knows, maybe your head-amp sells tens of thousands because you have used a decent design and a few magic parts...
Do introduce yourself as manufacturer, not as individual. Explain your branching out from AC filters into electronics (Pre/Headamp) and ask how to get a modest number of samples and volume pricing in hundreds and thousands (which are nice on Icecream)...
Ciao T
I had their Japanese address, but frankly, I never dreamed they would be willing to talk to individuals. I am certainly not a volume buyer, at least by their standards.
Don't underplay your hand. Who knows, maybe your head-amp sells tens of thousands because you have used a decent design and a few magic parts...
Do introduce yourself as manufacturer, not as individual. Explain your branching out from AC filters into electronics (Pre/Headamp) and ask how to get a modest number of samples and volume pricing in hundreds and thousands (which are nice on Icecream)...
Ciao T
No one has mentioned the old Mallory "computer" grade caps. They were truely huge, I have 2 .1F @ 125V somewhere in storage.
Key word: old. That is a bit of a problem with electrolytic. We sure use a bunch of those puppies back when I was building power supplies in Colorado. Pretty dramatic when the rectifiers were wired wrong. I think they were PCB's back then.
Much thanks for the tips. I am at the mercy of re-sellers as to be, 10 is a really big order. At least it tells me what to be looking for.
Hi,
Don't underplay your hand. Who knows, maybe your head-amp sells tens of thousands because you have used a decent design and a few magic parts...
Yeah, sure ...
Do introduce yourself as manufacturer, not as individual. Explain your branching out from AC filters into electronics (Pre/Headamp) and ask how to get a modest number of samples and volume pricing in hundreds and thousands (which are nice on Icecream)...
Ciao T
OK, thank you, will do.
Key word: old. That is a bit of a problem with electrolytic. We sure use a bunch of those puppies back when I was building power supplies in Colorado. Pretty dramatic when the rectifiers were wired wrong. I think they were PCB's back then.
I thought only old metal can types used in ballasts and power grid applications, etc. contained PCB's (transformers too).
I thought only old metal can types used in ballasts and power grid applications, etc. contained PCB's (transformers too).
Why electrolytics should contain it? It was in audiophile grade 3-directional motor run paper in oil tuna cans.
All I know is the safety folks freaked out when we filled the entire manufacturing floor with mist and oil from them, and that is what they said. I'm not dead yet.
All I know is the safety folks freaked out when we filled the entire manufacturing floor with mist and oil from them, and that is what they said. I'm not dead yet.
You were happy to be born before that accident. It delays growth of nervous cells of fetuses.
Ha, safety guys... can't get any other job, they need to show that they are usefull.
I opened another thread about NYC people who wanted to be useful and invented new rules for kids... 😉
I thought only old metal can types used in ballasts and power grid applications, etc. contained PCB's (transformers too).
Scott, your avatar shows you've had a face job ... 😀
Scott, your avatar shows you've had a face job ... 😀
Had to switch before Ed figures out who it was, the new one is Greek.
Hey, that's Diamanda. Saints of the Pit cover - I think.
Hard to stump you guys. Not party friendly music.
Google is our friend, Scott! 😀
Amazon.com: The **** of God: The Texts of Diamanda Galás (High Risk Books) (9781852424329): Diamanda Galás: Books
Amazon.com: The **** of God: The Texts of Diamanda Galás (High Risk Books) (9781852424329): Diamanda Galás: Books
I was going to do Anne Francis but I could not find a quote.Google is our friend, Scott! 😀
I was going to do Anne Francis but I could not find a quote.
https://www.google.com/search?q=anne+francis+quotes
OK , we spoke about the reference HK amplifier , what about Sony, the Sony TA-N1 was Sony's reference amplifier , how good was it ...?
Sony TA-N1 on thevintageknob.org
TA-N1 Sonys Best Power Amplifier - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5snxJKBAcpI
Gain : 28dB
4 Ohm output power : 2x 400W
8 Ohm output power : 2x 200W
Load impedance : 4...16 Ohm
THD : 0,005% (10W / 8 Ohm)
Damping factor : over 150
S/N ratio : over 115dB
Frequency response : 5Hz...300Khz (±0 / -1dB)
Input impedance : 20kOhm (unbalanced RCA)
40kOhm (balanced XLR)
Dimensions : 48 x 24,5 x 53cm
Weight : 70kg.
Not very load tolerant or is it ........ 😎
Sony TA-N1 on thevintageknob.org
TA-N1 Sonys Best Power Amplifier - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5snxJKBAcpI
Gain : 28dB
4 Ohm output power : 2x 400W
8 Ohm output power : 2x 200W
Load impedance : 4...16 Ohm
THD : 0,005% (10W / 8 Ohm)
Damping factor : over 150
S/N ratio : over 115dB
Frequency response : 5Hz...300Khz (±0 / -1dB)
Input impedance : 20kOhm (unbalanced RCA)
40kOhm (balanced XLR)
Dimensions : 48 x 24,5 x 53cm
Weight : 70kg.
Not very load tolerant or is it ........ 😎
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OK , we spoke about the reference HK amplifier , what about Sony, the Sony TA-N1 was Sony's reference amplifier , how good was it ...?
Sony TA-N1 on thevintageknob.org
TA-N1 Sonys Best Power Amplifier - YouTube
SONY TA-N1 power amplifier best of - YouTube
Gain : 28dB
4 Ohm output power : 2x 400W
8 Ohm output power : 2x 200W
Load impedance : 4...16 Ohm
THD : 0,005% (10W / 8 Ohm)
Damping factor : over 150
S/N ratio : over 115dB
Frequency response : 5Hz...300Khz (±0 / -1dB)
Input impedance : 20kOhm (unbalanced RCA)
40kOhm (balanced XLR)
Dimensions : 48 x 24,5 x 53cm
Weight : 70kg.
Not very load tolerant or is it ........ 😎
You know, I've stated often enough that I believe an amplifier should be load tolerant, but within reason.
For example, I have heard amps which are load tolerant, in that they deliver the required voltage across a load, but in the process, they somehow lose composition, they sonically "fall apart", so to speak. An example I can't foprget is Yamaha's old B-4 amp, the one I heard first was ageneral model (one transformer, two caps), and then, a few years later, I heard a different version of that amp, with two tranformers and four caps - an altogether different ball game. The second one kept its composition well into the higher power range even on the Apogees, and that's saying something.
My point is, load tolerance on its own really means very little. They have to maintain their load tolerance but ALSO AND AT THE SAME TIME their "voicing", their "composition". One becomes meaningful only if supported by the other.
I can't speak for you, but I would rather they keep their composition into lower loads at the expense of actually doubling their wattage.
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