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FrankWW said:
The idea that an ordinary person can get maximum benefit from education by not relying on others for assistance, validation, knowledge, and so forth, is absurd.
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Agreed.

Two different approaches:
1. "How do I work out the LF cutoff for a circuit with an input coupling cap?"
2. "What will be the LF cutoff for this circuit?"
The first person is looking for understanding. The second is just looking for an answer.

If it is 40 years since you were at university you might not realise how much they have changed. I was shocked when I went back after about a 20 year gap.
 
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What did you expect in a situation where education has become commoditised?

The answer to this has already been given. If responding to a request for assistance with an academic query offends your sensibilities, just don't do it.

There are plenty more sizable moral issues in life than this one, and ultimately its the academic staff who are paid to sort the wheat from the chaff.
 
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FrankWW said:
We were pretty fierce:

"Patricia will have your guts for garters if you don't footnote this stuff."

"If you don't read the books, you won't pass. You do realize that, don't you?"

" What does this paragraph mean? What's your argument?"

We were insufferable.

The idea that an ordinary person can get maximum benefit from education by not relying on others for assistance, validation, knowledge,
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peer review is an accepted method of learning in the Scottish Education system.
I used it at my schools. My school promoted it's use as a teaching tool. The Education Authority saw it's value.

I undergo peer review in my professional life.
Most of my designs were reviewed before the design was constructed.
Once I entered teaching, we regularly carry out peer review. Both sides learn from the observation and particularly during the feedback.
 
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DF96 said:
Agreed.

Two different approaches:
1. "How do I work out the LF cutoff for a circuit with an input coupling cap?"
2. "What will be the LF cutoff for this circuit?"
The first person is looking for understanding. The second is just looking for an answer.

If it is 40 years since you were at university you might not realise how much they have changed. I was shocked when I went back after about a 20 year gap.
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I graduated with a BS in Engineering in 1979, and in 2009 went back for a few masters EE courses. Both experiences lead me to the same conclusion - never is a simple "answer" accepted as the solution to a homework, project, or test. Maybe in other disciplines, but not engineering.

I always had to start with proper equations, manipulate them, insert knowns and unknowns, and solve, showing all work to get credit for a right final answer. Also got credit for partial solution if approach was right, but answer was wrong.

If someone has already worked out a solution, and wants independent verification of the correct answer before submitting, 2) above may be fine.

I just don't see how the naked answer, as implied in 2) above, would ever get anyone any credit, especially on something they had to "take home".
 
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