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I spoke with Hifimediy & Nick,
I think it is the Relay where the power comes to the board,
it still works,I just unplug power supply when finished.
Anyway Hifimediy is suppose to be sending some
Relays to Nick, and he said he would send them as soon
as he gets them, so contact Nick,I assume this has been a problem
for others as well.

This has happened to me also, but during the first week or so it functioned properly. Checked the switch with a multimeter and it was OK. Wrote to hifimediy and they said it could be a defective connection, but this wasn't the case. To cut a long story short we exchanged a number of emails and I thought they were being evasive. I packed it temporarily and switched to my previous amp hoping the problem would crop up on this thread.

May I suggest you too write to hifimediy and hopefully now that the problem has surfaced here they will do something about it.

JA
 
Hello
I took a look at it from underneath the board and that relay only has
4 pins I think there are suppose to be 5 pins
is that correct or did I miss something.
the 2 relays at output have 5 pins.
what are your thoughts.
Thanks,


Few page earlier, same problem for me. The relay stay stuck. Just hit it a little bit, it should release by itself.
Hifimediy has to find a solution to this problem, it is not an isolated one.

Eric
 
This has happened to me also, but during the first week or so it functioned properly. Checked the switch with a multimeter and it was OK. Wrote to hifimediy and they said it could be a defective connection, but this wasn't the case. To cut a long story short we exchanged a number of emails and I thought they were being evasive. I packed it temporarily and switched to my previous amp hoping the problem would crop up on this thread.

May I suggest you too write to hifimediy and hopefully now that the problem has surfaced here they will do something about it.

JA
Hi, sorry you felt you were treated in that way. I initially thought there was something wrong with the switch itself (getting loose in shipment) and I asked some more questions to understand more exactly what's happening.
Anyway, as bigaudioscotto said, I will receive some new relays which I can send out to those who need it. Hopefully many of you are able to change it yourself if needed.
A workaround is to leave the power switch on, and turn power on/off with your power supply, just like on the v2 board.
 
T3 has a lot of power yes no doubt. However, TK2350 has excellent carateristics.
It is close to TA3020 at cheaper price. It could be a high power high quality stereo amp. (close to 2x200W in 4ohms at 0,05% THD)
I was just wondering why this excellent tripath chip gets so little interest in the DIY community.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
I agree with you.
Also I wonder how it's possible the availability of the Tripath chips if the Tripath closed in 2007 for financial difficulties.
Who is still producing the IC's?
 
Few page earlier, same problem for me. The relay stay stuck. Just hit it a little bit, it should release by itself.
Hifimediy has to find a solution to this problem, it is not an isolated one.

Eric

Earlier on I wrote about the switch on my v1.2 remaining on when switched off. I have tried this little trick on the supply (black) relay and the problem has been fixed. I'm not sure it will not surface again because I had to do it 3 times before it finally settled. Short of a replacement relay it's good to know there is a way around the problem.

Nick, what you said about my case is true. My comments were not meant to be hard on you or your product which besides sounding very good is also very good value. I wrote because I was confident the subject would be brought up here and discussed - as actually happened. I'll keep following this thread for any developments.

JA
 
Earlier on I wrote about the switch on my v1.2 remaining on when switched off. I have tried this little trick on the supply (black) relay and the problem has been fixed. I'm not sure it will not surface again because I had to do it 3 times before it finally settled. Short of a replacement relay it's good to know there is a way around the problem.

Nick, what you said about my case is true. My comments were not meant to be hard on you or your product which besides sounding very good is also very good value. I wrote because I was confident the subject would be brought up here and discussed - as actually happened. I'll keep following this thread for any developments.

JA

Hi, guys.
I have to say that there are certain problems in our products including this relay problem. I just found that this relay can not handle voltage up to 30V when large current, and when will perform as STUCK. And I already try to find a new relay that will be stronger, but I couldn't find it by now(HONGFA HF152 may be the one, but are out of stock now). And I will keep on looking for that. I believe that if use v1 below 28V it will be ok because I tested every board and didn't find one with that problem. So we will keep selling v1 with HONGFA JQC-3FF and update the relay when I find a new one to replace.
And I feel very happy that may of you help and support us so much. I think it's my duty that doing things better. :)
 
T3 has a lot of power yes no doubt. However, TK2350 has excellent carateristics.
It is close to TA3020 at cheaper price. It could be a high power high quality stereo amp. (close to 2x200W in 4ohms at 0,05% THD)
I was just wondering why this excellent tripath chip gets so little interest in the DIY community.
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
For the Tripath has no longer produced these chip, I think we only can make projects that chips are still on stock.
 
v1.1b Relay problem.

I was only running at 27 volts and had the stuck Relay.
but I must say thanks for making a good sounding amp.
keep up the good work,we will figure this relay problem out.
by the way I tried to run my amp on 2 x 12 volt sla batteries
and I will tell you it sounds way better on smps supply.
Hi, guys.
I have to say that there are certain problems in our products including this relay problem. I just found that this relay can not handle voltage up to 30V when large current, and when will perform as STUCK. And I already try to find a new relay that will be stronger, but I couldn't find it by now(HONGFA HF152 may be the one, but are out of stock now). And I will keep on looking for that. I believe that if use v1 below 28V it will be ok because I tested every board and didn't find one with that problem. So we will keep selling v1 with HONGFA JQC-3FF and update the relay when I find a new one to replace.
And I feel very happy that may of you help and support us so much. I think it's my duty that doing things better. :)
 
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Hi, guys.
I have to say that there are certain problems in our products including this relay problem. I just found that this relay can not handle voltage up to 30V when large current, and when will perform as STUCK. And I already try to find a new relay that will be stronger, but I couldn't find it by now(HONGFA HF152 may be the one, but are out of stock now). And I will keep on looking for that. I believe that if use v1 below 28V it will be ok because I tested every board and didn't find one with that problem. So we will keep selling v1 with HONGFA JQC-3FF and update the relay when I find a new one to replace.
And I feel very happy that may of you help and support us so much. I think it's my duty that doing things better. :)

I have a v1.1b running at 29volts that has been off and on every day some times a few times a day for 3 months so I can "confirm" your suspicions.

Scott
 
hi guys
its taken me awhile to bash through this whole thread and must say ive found it very intresting,intresting to the point where i think its time to give these digital amps a try:D
can i also say well done to hifimediy for not only producing the product but for also taking on board the modding ideas etc from this thread and finding the time and will to interact with this forum...well done and rare to see:)
also well done to Nick122147 for bringing said product to our atention and also giving us the means in which to buy them...thank you.
ok i have some questions as this type of amp technology is new to me and have never heard any of them( ive been drawn to these ones because of the reasons stated above),im a die hard valve/tube amp kind of guy and although althrough these posts the sound quality as been stated as excellent im just wondering how they stack up against well established audio gear that i may have heard or used so i have some point of reference to get a idea of the quality i should expect,so if anyone has any reviews where they have compared them to some of the shelf highish end gear i would be very intrested to hear there views on it,moreso if its against some tube gear.
im thinking of getting
2 x Hifimediy T3 300W @4ohm STA517B Tripath amp boards and maybe running them on acouple of ac torridal transformers to keep cost down but i use very sensitve hawthorne sterling silver iris drivers(97db 8ohm) so they would have to be very quite otherwise ill be hearing any noise through these speakers,so can anyone tell me if these are noise free? my intention is to make acouple of mono blocks so i can place them by my speakers and run them off my audionote tube pre-amp,can anyone see any problems this way?
also last question,as sound quality is my ultimate goal and i have such efficent drivers that power rating isnt a issue is there a conclusion on which of these moduals used the way i intend to use them gives the best sound?(i know i dont need the t3 power wise but im drawn to them as i like the smallness and layout of the boards and the option to use ac or dc and the fact that they will give me plenty of power reserves for when playing my music loud,anything is going to do that against my 8watt audionote tube amps that im using at present:D)
sorry for all the questions and long post but any guidance and view would be much appricated as im keen to get something ordered:)
all the best
smithie
 
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I'm using the TK2050 V1.2 board with a Meanwell 26v 4.2A SMPS to power my mids which are Eminence Delta 10A, 10" woofers, 8ohm, SPL: 98.8 dB 1W/1m. There is very low noise floor and plenty of power to play loud. Iv'e tried quite a few different amps on my mids including Hypex and other Tripaths. Subjective comparisons depend too much on the listener so I won't bother getting into that but I will say they sound clean have low current draw and for the price they stack up.

I use a TA2020 on my highs and a TA3020 on my subs. Iv'e found this to be the best combination in my 3-way active system to keep a low noise floor and have good dynamics.

col.
 
How to jump the power relay on T1

Hi, we change the name of boards, so v1>T1 and v2>T2, and keep T3 :)
If a stuck happened:
use a wire to jump the power relay as it showed below; or
use a diode (with relay removed and wire useless) if necessary.
Some one may need this:
 

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im thinking of getting
2 x Hifimediy T3 300W @4ohm STA517B Tripath amp boards and maybe running them on acouple of ac torridal transformers to keep cost down but i use very sensitve hawthorne sterling silver iris drivers(97db 8ohm) so they would have to be very quite otherwise ill be hearing any noise through these speakers,so can anyone tell me if these are noise free?

Hi :) I think you'll like these amps ...

With those speakers however, I'd advise you to take the T1 type – it's going to sound better, because of how the chip is used. Using a one channel from the power chip per speaker gives a more lively, open and sweet sound. (Clearer and sweeter at the same time.)

Plus, the output filter should be better tuned to 8 Ohm drivers – the T3 might be a little "sharp" here, unmodified.
 
hi
thanks for your replys and views,im still undecided but ill ponder till ive made a decision.
the trouble i have now is that ive just read somewhere that if you run a digital amp on your main drivers and use a normal a/b type amp to power your subs(as i do) then you will get phasing issues and they wont match up properly..or something like that??? anyone know about this or have experience? if theres any truth in this then that could become abit of a deal breaker for me:(
all the best
smithie
 
Not true.
I have been using Tripath based amps for years,
with a seperate plate amp for subs and it blends beautiful.
trust me it is not a problem.



hi
thanks for your replys and views,im still undecided but ill ponder till ive made a decision.
the trouble i have now is that ive just read somewhere that if you run a digital amp on your main drivers and use a normal a/b type amp to power your subs(as i do) then you will get phasing issues and they wont match up properly..or something like that??? anyone know about this or have experience? if theres any truth in this then that could become abit of a deal breaker for me:(
all the best
smithie
 
hi
thats cool to hear and thanks for sharing.
i sometimes wonder if people write this stuff to get noticed or there bored:rolleyes:
but as ive said i have no experience so can only rely on the forums and peoples views regarding it all,anyway i wa thinking it couldnt be much different then me using a tube amp on my main drivers and ss on my subs:D
now if hifimediy could make and produce a mono self contained digital crossover and power modual of say 300-400 into 8ohm just for subs using these amps i would be knocking at his door (providing the price was right of course:D)...no rush,next week is fine:D
all the best
smithie
 
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Hi, I may want to get noticed and I am bored but I would not mix up different topologies when unsure whether there is a phase-difference or not. To make sure such "problems" won't occur it is better to use amps of the same topology. In case of using a switching amp on a subwoofer it is hard to notice by ear unless you can A/B compare with the correct situation.

But often people like to listen MP3's with a lot of boom. They won't even notice if stuff is in phase or not ;)
 
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was thinking on my situation and thought the best thing to do is buy one of the cheapest hifimediy amps avaliable with power surply and give it a try,that way ill know if there for me or not.
now heres the trouble part.....im geared up for mono blocks:(.
if i buy a stereo amp to listern to i would then have to buy sone speaker cable to make it work as im only using half meter lengths at the moment,and if i did that i would have to by 2x3 metres of half decent stuff to get a fair shootout between what im using now and these amps.
yet if i do that then the cost of the decent cable would proberly cost the same as buying to lots of amps and sorting there power surplies out:eek:
now you can see why my head hurts...decisions,decisions:confused:
smithie
 
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