What about the issue with L&R channels being off a few microseconds? Is Audionote correcting this with their DAC's, is there a means to reclock without adding significant complexity? IS it a non issue? As a headphone listener it is a bigger issue I believe?
At far as I know Audionote seems to be OK in all their models with that 11.34uS delay and nobody cares about it.What about the issue with L&R channels being off a few microseconds? Is Audionote correcting this with their DAC's, is there a means to reclock without adding significant complexity? IS it a non issue? As a headphone listener it is a bigger issue I believe?
Although using a single CPLD one could fix this. Unfortunately there are very few who knows Verilog or VHDL to do this :| and using 11 ICs is not appealing to anybody to correct this.
What's more interesting for me is that Audionote is OK with the jitter coming from its CS8414 receiver. They don't try to eradicate this jitter with secondary PLL solution or input an external XO clock into CS8414 (as in DDDAC) and they are still appraised for their sound.
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At far as I know Audionote seems to be OK in all their models with that 11.34uS delay and nobody cares about it.
Although using a single CPLD one could fix this. Unfortunately there are very few who knows Verilog or VHDL to do this :| and using 11 ICs is not appealing to anybody to correct this.
What's more interesting for me is that Audionote is OK with the jitter coming from its CS8414 receiver. They don't try to eradicate this jitter with secondary PLL solution or input an external XO clock into CS8414 (as in DDDAC) and they are still appraised for their sound.
Thanks for the info. I'm afraid with headphones this 11.34uS delay would create an artificial reverb. I know the PCM56 also has this issue, I guess its yet another issue keeping me from building an NOS DAC, probably just stick to a PMD100.
After some test with No oversampling DAC chip I think that the AD1865 is the best.
If compared to the new technology DAC chips like AD1955 and CS4397 since to be more natural.
The old TDA have a too close sound and with these some particulars are lost.
The preview of my article is here
No Oversamplig DAC
But where I can get some AD1865 chips to create a kit ?
Someone have tested the AD1861 or the AD1851 with th esame technology ?
I have some opinion and some question.
1. How do you know which one (any DAC) give you more natural? Did you stay with them to listen while they did the record?
2. What are systems the sound engineer use for recording? A/D with Non oversampling? 24bit/96k/192k/386k or 16bit/44.1k.
3. The guy who's love non-oversampling probably love noise (me too, if music has no noise sometime it's too quiet (for me)). Good ideal to do non oversampling if i don't has digital filter.
4. We should go to concert. We should not listen the playback in small room.
5. The nature of human, nothing is enough so nothing is the best.
6. Audio Design Guide <- This side is must not be the guide it's not good for reference and unfair for all vendors who's make DAC. Use the hardwire and SMD-to-DIP adaptor with digital circuit

7. I believe the people they love DIY hobby because they fun 🙂
8. The life is color (for me)
Hi! There are a lot of my friends have used the DAC-end2, and they both noticed the sound is very natural, honest, warm!
Hi! There are a lot of my friends have used the DAC-end2, and they both noticed the sound is very natural, honest, warm!
Hi quanghao,
Thanks for your comments. Sound character is no matter for me on this topic.
If we look back to my previous post at 1st and 2nd question.
-1st, i never heard the original sound while sound engineer was recording. How do i know the sound that i hear from the whole system is the sound reproduction/natural? What does the natural mean? Reproduction?
-2nd, I just need to know which way that 100% of Audiophile studio in the world is used for the recording. They perform natural way (Non-oversampling) or not perform.
-6th, In the Audio Design Guide website. The fact is everything in there break the mixed-signal layout design rule (technical term for Engineering in the world). But it's doesn't mean the sound is not good because a lot of people may like its sound (Practical term for some group).
However, it's just my opinion and logic. Finally, everything is upto the end user which one is their favorite sound. Hope these make sense.
Thanks,
Moddang.
-2nd, I just need to know which way that 100% of Audiophile studio in the world is used for the recording. They perform natural way (Non-oversampling) or not perform.
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Recording studios use ADC's , once in the digital domain it would not be prudent to insert a DAC as that would add an analog generation so studios really don't use DAC in the signal chain much at all.
I have these one DAC
And only output stage
Everything working fine but sound is poor, weak, not smooth!
Maybe the somethnig is wrong adj. with those 2+2 h. trimers?
Any suggestion will bi fine!!
Thanks.
Regards zeoN_Rider
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An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
And only output stage
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Everything working fine but sound is poor, weak, not smooth!
Maybe the somethnig is wrong adj. with those 2+2 h. trimers?
Any suggestion will bi fine!!
Thanks.
Regards zeoN_Rider
I had the same...
The analog-stage / I/V just have too little gain. I added a opamp on the output with gain set to 3-4x, to bring it up to "normal" output-level.
Arne K
The analog-stage / I/V just have too little gain. I added a opamp on the output with gain set to 3-4x, to bring it up to "normal" output-level.
Arne K
I had the same...
The analog-stage / I/V just have too little gain. I added a opamp on the output with gain set to 3-4x, to bring it up to "normal" output-level.
Arne K
I substituted R7 with higher value, gain is OK, but soun is still poor.
I don't have right schematic diagram of Output stage!
Regards zeoN_Rider
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What value did you use on R4?
Will the sound improve if you take the signal after R9?
I am asking because I am planing on doing a
descrete sta for my AD1865 DAC.
Will the sound improve if you take the signal after R9?
I am asking because I am planing on doing a
descrete sta for my AD1865 DAC.
What value did you use on R4?
Will the sound improve if you take the signal after R9?
R4 was 560 Ohm, now 2K2!
No, don't connected out from R9 for probe.
My trouble are VR1, VR2!
Regards zeoN_Rider
Ok,if you have the time could you fill in the missing resistor values on that schema?
Ok shoot!!!
This is Pic. of Output stage, look carefully:
An externally hosted image should be here but it was not working when we last tested it.
Regards zeoN_Rider
Hmmm,where did the schema go?
Look under today's newspapers 😉
#331!
Regards zeoN_Rider
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I have these one DAC
Everything working fine but sound is poor, weak, not smooth!
Maybe the somethnig is wrong adj. with those 2+2 h. trimers?
Any suggestion will bi fine!!
Thanks.
Regards zeoN_Rider
I think the power supply is not good, and all comment produce in China!
you change the supply for IV, the sound is better!
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