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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Hi,
Here is a simple trick to improve the performance of the two-transistor CCS. This type of current source has a good regulation vs. variations of the output voltage (= high output impedance), but behaves rather poorly wrt. variations of the auxiliary (bias) voltage (= non-zero transconductance). By adding a single compensation resistor, a huge gain can be made. In this example, a 10mA current sink, resistor R4 has been added. The circuit on the right is the regular CCS used as the reference for comparison. Without R4, the current variation amounts to 24µA for 1V. With R4, this variation is only 0.27µA, almost a 100 to 1 improvement. The value has been fine-tuned for the optimum, and R2 also had to be altered slightly to keep the same current. I have found the values empirically, it should be possible to derive a formula. I think it should look something like this: The ratio of R4 to R2 equals 2(Iout/Ibias)(Vbias/Vbe) (to be checked, at first sight, it seems to work). It is not necessary to use exact values: the second example uses the nearest standard values, and the delta current has increased to 0.7µA, but it is still a worthwhile gain. With this method, the PSRR of an amplifier could be improved by 20 to 40dB. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Scottish Borders
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Hi,
thank you. Zo~0M04 as standard, to 1M4 using approx. R values, to 3M7 when optimised in the simulator. Have you compared your mod to Keantoken's mods/capacitors, particularly with regard to frequency?
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regards Andrew T. Last edited by AndrewT; 3rd September 2010 at 12:51 PM. |
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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I would worry about the range of practical improvement - cancelling Zcb may not be "robust" if the parameter varies with operating point as well as device-to-device
cascodes of various flavors do cost more transistors but can give >100 Meg output Z despite wide device parameter variations |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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The issue is not really about Z, which in this case is already excellent, but about the current modulation by the bias source (generally the main power supply).
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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I'd just split the bias R and filter or shunt regulate if there's a bias supply noise problem
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Quote:
And a shunt regulator might be a bit of an overkill. On the other hand, adding this resistor costs practically nothing and does bring a substantial improvement, both dynamically and statically. Quote:
If we look at CCS1, we see that the output current is determined by RE and the Vbe of Q2. This Vbe is in turn dependent on the bias current, provided by VB and RB. Because there is a logarithmic relationship between IB and Vbe, this means that this circuit is in fact a (crude) logarithmic converter: Iout is the logarithm of VB. CCS2 shows the situation with the compensating resistor RC. The dynamic emitter resistance of Q2 is shown explicitly, and we can see that for the compensation to occur, the division ratio of RB to re has to be identical to that of RC to RE: this gives the relationship indicated on the schematic. This is a first order simplified analysis, valid on the conditions variations are small, and bias current is sufficiently high, etc, but it shows the compensation is essentially device-independent. With the values of the previous example, the formula yields a result of 43K, which is not too far off the mark. Obviously, the compensation cannot be perfect: a linear compensation will never cancel a logarithmic effect, but for practical purposes, it is useful enough as the example shows. |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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It is possible to extend the compensation principle in order to build a two-terminal current regulator.
The bias resistor is tied to the output, which under normal circumstances would seriously degrade the output impedance. A compensation resistor can be added to cancel the effect of this resistor. This time, some gain is needed, and this requires an additional resistor R2. With the optimum compensation, the current variation for 20V in a 10mA source is 15µA. |
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diyAudio Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
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If the circuit is overcompensated, it becomes a negative resistor.
It is the functional equivalent of a lambda diode, but capable of operating at much higher levels. Like the lambda diode, it can be used as a two terminal oscillator in conjunction with an LC tuned circuit. Such an oscillator is capable of providing a very high output level at a low distortion, thanks to its inherent amplitude self-stabilizing property: the negative resistance effect only exists within a limited part of the characteristic. |
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Join Date: Apr 2008
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Has anyone actually built this circuit and gave it a listen?
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