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jlsem

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Funny how the brain works, I joke about professional exterminators and next thing I find myself talking about Hitler. Anyway, good opportunity to recommend a GREAT and SHOCKING documentary film: Shoah. It's not for everybody, 9 hours long and... terribly depressing. I have seen it several times and still can't believe it. I go from being shocked to being depressed, I take a little break when I notice I'm starting to go insane. Really hardcore. Children and immature minds: stay away from this one.
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A great film, but Lanzmann is a little heavy-handed in places and treats many of the witnesses poorly, particularly the so-called "bystanders". It's easy now to criticize the Polish people for having done nothing, but Lanzmann should have known better, since millions of non-Jewish Poles were sent to labor camps, were persecuted, or were murdered as well.

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jlsem

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Yes, you can clearly see he's pissed off. Probably biased. :) You can also really see that the Polish workers who lived near the camps were very rudimentary persons. Not their fault if Nature made them that way (half-witted).
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With Lanzmann it's hard to say whether he's so dialed-in to the Holocaust because he is Jewish (I understand he is really a secularist) or because his own philosophy compels him to demonstrate what rotten people people are.

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Cassiel

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With Lanzmann it's hard to say whether he's so dialed-in to the Holocaust because he is Jewish (I understand he is really a secularist) or because his own philosophy compels him to demonstrate what rotten people people are.
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He joined the French resistance and fought against the Nazis. It's a question of character not beliefs. He's an atheist. Hearing some of the testimonies got my blood boiling too and i wasn't there....

Malediction, you changed your avatar!
 
jlsem

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Were there many Nazis in Auvergne during the war? I would think he spent most of his time in the resistance making trouble for the Vichy government.

I agree you with regard to the film itself. Though I haven't seen it since it was released, I'm still angry and will confess that it had a profound effect on me and the way I think about that stuff.

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Cassiel

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Were there many Nazis in Auvergne during the war?
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LOL. I've no idea. He's an intellectual so I guess he mostly did paperwork. A bit like Beckett, but I'm only guessing.


will confess that it had a profound effect on me and the way I think about that stuff
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Previously I had seen Hollywood interpretation and read something about it but that was all. When I saw Shoah I was profoundly shocked. I spent three months researching about the holocaust. I had to know all the facts.
 
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I read up till page 22 and nobody mentioned what was at one time regarded as a classic; High Noon. Aver wooden actor, Gary Cooper, but the development of the story and the timing was brilliant. Bullit had similar development of the story and I really enjoyed it.

Most movies that Stanley Kubrick was involved in were well worth watching.

I think Das Boot was brilliant. I tend to enjoy most of the French movies shown on S.B.S here and at one time there were some brilliant Yugoslav movies shown on New Zealand television. I prefer sub-titles to dubbing.

There was a Japanese movie about a boy/man who thought he was a train. I think it may have been black and white but it was great. Can,t remember the title.
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