And yet another Ampex Classic
The 351
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I wouldnt mind having one of these, with a 1/2" or 1" half track head stack, and set up for 30 ips, but all I have to record these days would be the refridgerator.
I also understand that the ATR-102 has become a hot comodety set up with 1" heads for disk mastering. Pretty cool transport, no pinch roller, kinda like the VPR-3.
The 351
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I wouldnt mind having one of these, with a 1/2" or 1" half track head stack, and set up for 30 ips, but all I have to record these days would be the refridgerator.
I also understand that the ATR-102 has become a hot comodety set up with 1" heads for disk mastering. Pretty cool transport, no pinch roller, kinda like the VPR-3.
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planet10 said:Karma,
That Trio/Kenwood looks a beaut... EL84s, 6BM8s, or something else? PP for sure.
dave
It has four 7189A power tubes and five 12AX7's
karma said:It has four 7189A power tubes
Beefier EL84s. Should be good for 20w.
dave
David,Da5id4Vz said:I loved my AVR-2's
Steal toed shoes and clip on ties!
I still get to use one weekly We have 4 running continuously for archiving material to digibeta.
BTW Where's the cat?
Cheers,
Nakamichi 500
The Nak 500 -- bottom of the line under the 700 & the 1000 -- was the cassette deck that introduced a generation to hifi cassette. As the most accessible Nak it was the one that 1st earned the phrase that "Nakamicji's botton of the line is better than everyone else's best". Mechanically somewhat fragile, it was & still is an outstanding deck (as far as cassette machines go).
dave
The Nak 500 -- bottom of the line under the 700 & the 1000 -- was the cassette deck that introduced a generation to hifi cassette. As the most accessible Nak it was the one that 1st earned the phrase that "Nakamicji's botton of the line is better than everyone else's best". Mechanically somewhat fragile, it was & still is an outstanding deck (as far as cassette machines go).
dave
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I don't think this can even really be called hifi, but is similar to the unit that my parents got in the early 60s and got me hooked. It even has a similar 50EH5 amp to the one that acted as donor for my 5-buck amp.
dave
dave
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Re: Nakamichi 500
And here's the best Nak. Actually I'm planning to sell that one. Anybody's got idea what the current value is (Audigon or Ebay)?
planet10 said:The Nak 500 -- bottom of the line under the 700 & the 1000 -- was the cassette deck that introduced a generation to hifi cassette. As the most accessible Nak it was the one that 1st earned the phrase that "Nakamicji's botton of the line is better than everyone else's best".
And here's the best Nak. Actually I'm planning to sell that one. Anybody's got idea what the current value is (Audigon or Ebay)?
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hmm on e-bay thay have a nakamichi 1000 2. no zxl yours would be the first
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3029870351&category=4784
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3029870351&category=4784
We had one of those as a logging recorder on our (TV) station output. Each day, the appropriate cassette for the day had to be found, bunged in, and rewound. (Record was remoted to the opt-out switches.) After umpty-ump years, the heads were totally worn out, but nobody had needed to check replay until one of our presenters said something they shouldn't have, and when the tape was needed as evidence it was found to be almost useless. (Lucky presenter, saved by engineering.)
Shortly after that, we installed a "Hi-Fi" VHS, which gave us the bonus of simultaneus pictures, and made it a lot easier to find out whether ****-ups were due to engineering faults or operational faults. Oddly, there was a great deal of resistance to our proposal of using the longitudinal tracks to also record local gallery talkback and Network gallery talkback.
Shortly after that, we installed a "Hi-Fi" VHS, which gave us the bonus of simultaneus pictures, and made it a lot easier to find out whether ****-ups were due to engineering faults or operational faults. Oddly, there was a great deal of resistance to our proposal of using the longitudinal tracks to also record local gallery talkback and Network gallery talkback.
(Dhaen)BTW Where's the cat?
The black cat is actually under the weather at the moment. He's got a massive kidney infection and taking a ton of antibiotics to try and squelch it.
After surprising myself by jumping headfirst into one of the DIY Audio/UN forums, I thought that old Strangelove here was a little better representation of myself. "Gentleman please! There's no fighting in here, this is the war room."
The first place I worked in the mid 80’s had three well-worn AVR-2's that (before the VPR-2's came along) used to do double duty on the remote truck. The truck was still using the Fernseh KCU-40B's when I was there.
About 10 years ago I needed to replace a 1200 after the Recortek had driven us all to distraction, bought two AVR-2's for $500. When I showed up with the truck to get them, they wouldn’t let me have them unless I also took a TR-70 with me.
Are your machines "stereo" and do they have the low band kits Installed? We did a lot of archive work those machines I bought, but just one and twos from client requests. Lots of old shedding oxide. We kept one machine running and used the other as a doner. Never powered up the TR-70.
-Dave
Sorry to hear about the pussDa5id4Vz said:(Dhaen)
The black cat is actually under the weather at the moment. He's got a massive kidney infection and taking a ton of antibiotics to try and squelch it.
After surprising myself by jumping headfirst into one of the DIY Audio/UN forums, I thought that old Strangelove here was a little better representation of myself. "Gentleman please! There's no fighting in here, this is the war room."
The first place I worked in the mid 80’s had three well-worn AVR-2's that (before the VPR-2's came along) used to do double duty on the remote truck. The truck was still using the Fernseh KCU-40B's when I was there.
About 10 years ago I needed to replace a 1200 after the Recortek had driven us all to distraction, bought two AVR-2's for $500. When I showed up with the truck to get them, they wouldn’t let me have them unless I also took a TR-70 with me.
Are your machines "stereo" and do they have the low band kits Installed? We did a lot of archive work those machines I bought, but just one and twos from client requests. Lots of old shedding oxide. We kept one machine running and used the other as a doner. Never powered up the TR-70.
-Dave
Most of my 2" time was on AVR1's. We converted one to PAL-M for interchange of material between Brasil and Portugal. Made lots of money, that one!
The AVR2's are mono - we didn't have stereo TV here 'till NICAM came around in the 80's. We've got 1 set of lowband boards, but there's not so much LB material.
Unfortunately the project ends this year, and the machines may be mothballed (if they're lucky).
I just disposed of about 50 years worth of TR70 heads. Someone somewhere will be crying.
The tapes still play well after cleaning. Amazing technology. We have more trouble with 1" C tapes. Oh and there's a living nightmare of thousands of D3's to do
Maybe I should have moved to telecoms....
Cheers,
This is turning into an old broadcasting fogey's thread...
Many years ago, in the junk room at work, I discovered something very odd. It was light green, had a 2" wide trough, clamps, and what looked like a microscope on top. When I asked my boss what it was, I thought he was winding me up. Razor blade 2" editing and Ediview?
Does anyone have a picture of a Nagra VPR6? I remember seeing one of these shortly after I bought my house. It was beautiful (well, it was Nagra). A portable 1" machine not much larger than a 1/4" machine, but pictures as well! It cost more than my house.
Meanwhile, I offer for your edification (please do not drool on keyboards), the following engineering wonders for which I would swap a sister, possibly two:
Many years ago, in the junk room at work, I discovered something very odd. It was light green, had a 2" wide trough, clamps, and what looked like a microscope on top. When I asked my boss what it was, I thought he was winding me up. Razor blade 2" editing and Ediview?
Does anyone have a picture of a Nagra VPR6? I remember seeing one of these shortly after I bought my house. It was beautiful (well, it was Nagra). A portable 1" machine not much larger than a 1/4" machine, but pictures as well! It cost more than my house.
Meanwhile, I offer for your edification (please do not drool on keyboards), the following engineering wonders for which I would swap a sister, possibly two:
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deja vu all over again
I don’t think the VPR-XX could hold more than a 20 min. reel. I did spend a lot of time using the VPR-20 that was, alas, pure Ampex. It would hold as large as a 60, but I don’t think a 90 min real. Take up and supply were over-under coaxial.
Nagra D is a wonderful machine. I purchased and maintained a couple of Nagra-T for telecine use. Only saw the NX (?) a couple of times when a recordest would bring one in for transfers. I fear that widgets like the Zaxcom Deja-vu DDR may have driven the Nagra D into irrelevance.
A neat feature of the Nagra D recording format was that although a helical recording you could still edit the tape with a razor blade without the use of a microscope or ferrofluid. Ive been told that that old quad control track developer works good for doping the gap in a dome tweeter to help keep the coil.
I don’t think the Ampex/Nagra collaboration was the VPR-6 a quick search did yield this thumbnail:
I don’t think the VPR-XX could hold more than a 20 min. reel. I did spend a lot of time using the VPR-20 that was, alas, pure Ampex. It would hold as large as a 60, but I don’t think a 90 min real. Take up and supply were over-under coaxial.
Nagra D is a wonderful machine. I purchased and maintained a couple of Nagra-T for telecine use. Only saw the NX (?) a couple of times when a recordest would bring one in for transfers. I fear that widgets like the Zaxcom Deja-vu DDR may have driven the Nagra D into irrelevance.
A neat feature of the Nagra D recording format was that although a helical recording you could still edit the tape with a razor blade without the use of a microscope or ferrofluid. Ive been told that that old quad control track developer works good for doping the gap in a dome tweeter to help keep the coil.
I don’t think the Ampex/Nagra collaboration was the VPR-6 a quick search did yield this thumbnail:
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