http://www.google.com/search?q=3l+diesel+engine&sourceid=opera&num=25&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8Rob M said:
It is the engine name, 3L. It seems it is also considered as being car category(the 3L vehicles?)
Anyway, it is a vw diesel engine that is called 3L.
speaker said:
I guess the answer depends on the definition of "vehicle". If you change it arbitrarily, you can end up finding that a big CAT engine is the most environmentally friendly engine,
.Now, going back to Smart, I have owned a US car that is far more environmentally friendly (it is a ford vehicle actually). and I am sure some GM vehicles can outdo the Smart both in performance and in emission.
A good friend of mine is a chief engineer at fuel cell company that, among others, design fuel cell vehicles. Other than greenhouse-causing water vapor, it is entirely environmentally friendly.
Of course, assuming that you can recycle the deadly electrods and membrane,
The big lie about fuel cells is that they they are enviromentally friendly when they spew tons of green house gas(water vapor, the most proliffic of the green house gases) and Hydogen isn't found in ones back pocket. It requires huge amounts of energy to produce. Monstly fosil fuels.
The only place I would drive that pooky little 3L is on a golf course. My big 5.9L gas hog sometimes gets to pull my 6000 pound boat (That gets less than 2 miles per gallon). And when it does, It's a glorious sound holding each gear to 5000 RPM at WOT. I enjoy watching the temp gauge climb a few degrees getting up to highway speeds as I dump gallons of gas down the cylinders.
Those who buy into the global warming lie are free to conserve till the feel goosebombs of happyness all over there body. And I'll continue doing what makes me happy. Everyone seems to have an opinion, and I doubt that anyone is going to change anyone elses mind. It's like trying to teach Palistinians it's wrong to kill people on school buses and in malls.
The only place I would drive that pooky little 3L is on a golf course. My big 5.9L gas hog sometimes gets to pull my 6000 pound boat (That gets less than 2 miles per gallon). And when it does, It's a glorious sound holding each gear to 5000 RPM at WOT. I enjoy watching the temp gauge climb a few degrees getting up to highway speeds as I dump gallons of gas down the cylinders.
Those who buy into the global warming lie are free to conserve till the feel goosebombs of happyness all over there body. And I'll continue doing what makes me happy. Everyone seems to have an opinion, and I doubt that anyone is going to change anyone elses mind. It's like trying to teach Palistinians it's wrong to kill people on school buses and in malls.
pinkmouse said:
name 5 countries that don't promote this argument, and try to persude them to shut off their petro supplies.
I will bet my next paycheck that you will achieve exactly nothing there.
What does that mean for your statement above?
I hope people actually think through their arguments before wasting the time to type them up.
Pollution.......what pollution????
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Re: Re: Pollution.......what pollution????
Like these?
millwood said:
Like these?
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I'm not at all in favor of polution. My big van gets an anual inspection that includes exaust gass annalysis and it passes with flying colors. Of the unburned HC, NOx, and CO, It produces less than 5% of the state benchmark.
Ozone. Where is the science behind the claims in the EPA crap you posted. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ground level ozone like upper atmosphere ozone is created by sunlight converting O2 into O3. Since when is O2 a polutant emitted by cars. And don't give me any lip about seeing it on the website. Any dimwit with a 486 and $40.00 can put whatever they want on a website. Give me a chemical equation where gasses emited by an internal combustion engine recombine to form ozone. Smog from poorly maintained cars would actually protect us from ozone. (not that I'm advocating smog)
I would bet that ground level ozone was higher prior to industrialization and it was first measured and tracted in the 70's and has been on the rise since we have been cleaning up air polution.
Ozone. Where is the science behind the claims in the EPA crap you posted. Correct me if I'm wrong, but ground level ozone like upper atmosphere ozone is created by sunlight converting O2 into O3. Since when is O2 a polutant emitted by cars. And don't give me any lip about seeing it on the website. Any dimwit with a 486 and $40.00 can put whatever they want on a website. Give me a chemical equation where gasses emited by an internal combustion engine recombine to form ozone. Smog from poorly maintained cars would actually protect us from ozone. (not that I'm advocating smog)
I would bet that ground level ozone was higher prior to industrialization and it was first measured and tracted in the 70's and has been on the rise since we have been cleaning up air polution.
Brian Donaldson said:
No your wrong
Ground level ozone is formed by a photochemical reaction between oxygen and pollutants ie. volatile organic compounds (solvents, hydrocarbons ect.) and nitrogen oxides (nitric oxide, nitrogen dioxide) in the presence of sunlight
VOC's and NOx's come from industry and cars
They act as a catalyst and create ground level ozone
Ozone in the upper atmosphere is created when highly energetic solar radiation (U.V) Hits O2 molecules breaking them down and then reforming as O3 and vice versa in a continuos cycle that converts U.V radiation into infrared radiation (heat)
Brian Donaldson said:
Huh
Brian Donaldson said:
Ground level ozone is a significant component of smog (not a suprise, thats where its made)
Brian Donaldson said:
Could you explane please? that makes no sence what so ever
Who discoverd ozone and when?
Roibm
It's been 12 months since my last inspection, and I can't recall what they are, But Ill try to get it done this week and post later.
B.
I call Bullcrap
O2 is O2. If there is a different reaction that produces it at ground level, state it. Laser printers, photo copyers, brush type electric motors and arc welders make it from O2. What components of smog are used to make ozone and are the propsed byproducts represented in the atmosphere in proportion when the ozone concetration high?
It's been 12 months since my last inspection, and I can't recall what they are, But Ill try to get it done this week and post later.
B.
I call Bullcrap
O2 is O2. If there is a different reaction that produces it at ground level, state it. Laser printers, photo copyers, brush type electric motors and arc welders make it from O2. What components of smog are used to make ozone and are the propsed byproducts represented in the atmosphere in proportion when the ozone concetration high?
Brian Donaldson said:
Oh diddims
Brian Donaldson said:
Wow thats amasing
Brian Donaldson said:
I did
Brian Donaldson said:
Yes they do, ozone is that metalic smell, whats your piont?
Brian Donaldson said:
VOC's and NOx's acting as catalysts
VOC + NO --> NO2 + products NO2 + h --> (<430nm) ? NO + O O + O2 + M --> O3 + M
(M chemically inactive collision partner)
Brian Donaldson said:
Yes