That would be Steve N, you all know who that is. DIYers should organize a boycot of his "services."
Ok so OEM means classified? or maybe audiodesign stole datasheet from M2Tech website?
Maybe better choice is to propound M2Tech to add USB isolators and make new product not being related to any audio manufacturer?
OEM means they are an OEM supplier to Steve N. He holds the cards and can say this can't be sold to anyone but him if they have a NDA or other contract. He will add a few components and sell them for $1k or so a piece.
If MTech is smart they can find a way around it.
Love Jkeny jumping on us while he is set to lose money on his business if these were sold. Starting to lose a lot of respect for this guy. Member of the trades shouldn't even be posting on this thread IMO.
Regal, how are you aware it is Steve N.? Just curious.
I also agree that it would serve M2Tech to supply these modules to the DIY market. As this thread has shown, there is obviously a significant demand for just such a product.
Listen, you are viewing this with blinkers - look at it from M2Tech's perspective - OEM means original equipment manufacture & are intended for sale as I said. If M2tech started selling these to individuals, how many companies do you think they would be able to do business with? Stop being so self absorbed, looking for a bargain & consider the bigger picture.
I posted how to do the mods on this on this very site - now why don't you go & do it yourself & stop pointing fingers of accusation at all around you simply because you've dropped your toys out of the pram!
What a shame, hopefully they might change their mind. Clearly there was an initial agreement between audiodesign and M2Tech that M2Tech have pulled out of. Anyway, thank-you (audiodesign) for your efforts.
Yes, that was also my impression so it is not like JKeny claim that audiodesign breached copyright by publishing dataheets! ofcourse for 100% sure please audiodesign please post a comment.
I think we can with help of audiodesign and with cooperation with M2Tech design a new product even better than original (USB isolators, ultra low jitter XOs etc).
I completely agree with Jkeny.
Audiodesign also is "on this business", so it's difficult (at least for me) not seeing its personal interest. The only fault of M2Tech has been an eccess of trust, in not having asked to Audiodesign to sign a NDA. We don't know anything of M2Tech contracts and commitments with other professional Companies, nor we know the whole story of what Audiodesign really asked for to M2Tech, so please don't make presumption or, even worse, sentences.
Guido
Yes, maybe audiodesign should answer these questions.
- did he have approval to publish the datasheet?
- did he tell M2tech that he intended to sell these boards on a forum to individuals?
- what exactly were his arrangements with M2Tech regarding these OEM boards?
I think this would clarify the matter.
I already asked these questions & he has not yet answered.
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I completely agree with Jkeny.
Audiodesign also is "on this business", so it's difficult (at least for me) not seeing its personal interest. The only fault of M2Tech has been an eccess of trust, in not having asked to Audiodesign to sign a NDA. We don't know anything of M2Tech contracts and commitments with other professional Companies, nor we know the whole story of what Audiodesign really asked for to M2Tech, so please don't make presumption or, even worse, sentences.
Guido
Thank you Guido, sense prevails
At this time I think that the best soultion to play hi-resolution material is modify a media player like this one:
Xtreamer Pro
The cost is not more high of a M2Tech spdif ainterface and there are many benefit to get a complete dedicated environment
I am asking to Xstreamer the right specification to make the modifications
Tell me If someone have other media player playing 192Khz 24bit flac
Xtreamer Pro
The cost is not more high of a M2Tech spdif ainterface and there are many benefit to get a complete dedicated environment
I am asking to Xstreamer the right specification to make the modifications
Tell me If someone have other media player playing 192Khz 24bit flac
As I can see "Jkeny's usb-i2s module...based on M2tech HiFace technology" (
) is being sold for $161, I understand your "bigger picture" point of view. 
To be fair, I guess if I were the OEM customer, I might be a little bit upset as well :
DAC options (Hiface USB Transport Modifications & Ancillaries)
What a pity for the rest of us. Quite a difference to 50 Euros.
Looking at the bright side, I saved 50+ Euros and have more time to concentrate on other projects.
Patrick
DAC options (Hiface USB Transport Modifications & Ancillaries)
What a pity for the rest of us. Quite a difference to 50 Euros.
Looking at the bright side, I saved 50+ Euros and have more time to concentrate on other projects.
Patrick
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As I can see "Jkeny's usb-i2s module...based on M2tech HiFace technology" (
As I said already, this is a modified board that is built into the ACkoDAC. You can always do the mods yourself - I have posted the details of how to do it on this forum, so I'm essentially giving it away for free all you have to do is apply the mods yourself.
So what's your gripe? This is DIY audio I believe, not a group buy forum or am I mistaken about it's true purpose?
I see audiodesign has not answered the questions which I presume signifies that he has a problem answering them? I believe you should direct your ire at being led down a blind alley with false promises rather than look everywhere else to find fault.
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Who said I buy the OEM board from M2tech? Do I buy a 100 & get it for €50. Do I modify it?To be fair, I guess if I were the OEM customer, I might be a little bit upset as well :
DAC options (Hiface USB Transport Modifications & Ancillaries)
What a pity for the rest of us. Quite a difference to 50 Euros.
Looking at the bright side, I saved 50+ Euros and have more time to concentrate on other projects.
Patrick
You guys make all sorts of assumptions without any foundation for them. Just because you were let down in what appeared to be a great deal - don't blame me. Ask audiodesign if there ever was a deal or were you being misled?
You know you all need to take a deep breathe & stop accusing everybody of imagined sins when the real sin lies in being misled with unreal promises & expectations!
Come on audiodesign, why don't you answer the questions?
Why did you take the datasheet pdf off your site - was it in breach of copyright?
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I'll repeat them again so as you can't ignore them
Yes, maybe audiodesign should answer these questions.
- did he have approval to publish the datasheet?
- did he tell M2tech that he intended to sell these boards on a forum to individuals?
- what exactly were his arrangements with M2Tech regarding these OEM boards?
This is what I read about your device: "This Hiface version is focused on I2S with NO SPDIF outputs." So I concluded you are using M2Tech module that this thread is about. Sorry. For every other device you're selling you state it's modified HiFace... So I probably got it wrong. Or not?
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