Gainclone building thread based on BrianGT's boards

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decided on doing a bit of mock up for the layout (dont have a drill or taps here at school, so no actual bolting down of sorts yet). the fan in back will be pulled out, but just felt like making sure everything fits up fine. cant believe i've been able to find heatsinks, cases, and transformers for these projects in the junk bin here at school. this is the 2-ch project box, and the 6-ch version is in the works still
 

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Variac said:
Yet another Transformer question:
I have some transformers that have just 2 wires from the secondary. Ijn other words they don't have plus minus and neutral . Just plus and minus.


Can I use one transformer of these per channel?

I think that that you need a plus, and minus and neutral ground for each channel.
I'm gonna look at the schematic but would like some backup.

Edit: Looks to me like you need AC plus, minus, and neutral from the transformer? i.e. 3 wires; even for just one channel? right?

Yes you are correct. You can use 2 transformers for both channels. One will supply the Positive rail, the other the negative.
Think of it as dual primaries, just that they aren't attached.
 
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You can actually use a single power supply board for 2 transformers, using a single transformer for each. If it is a center tapped transformer (you can make a dual secondary transformer center-tapped also), tie the center-tap to ground (run it into one of the pgnd pads, and then put the 2 other wires into the power supply board as you would a single secondary. This will create your +V and -V voltages. Make sure that the capacitor on the power supply board is rated high enough.

If I had time, I would make a diagram.

This should be an easy way to use the cheap PE transformers.

(in other words, one bridge per channel, instead of the dual bridge topology)

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MF = Musical Fidelity

matjans said:
dave: MF ?

The rest of the system in my "office":

Musical Fidelity A3 24 DAC
Musical Fidelity A308 integrated amp
REL Stadium III sub

I've got the LM3875 back on, listening to more Floyd while I build a PC for my inlaws. I need to come up with a switching system to A/B the amps. Maybe a couple of DPDT relays and a wall wort power supply.

I also have a Roksan Kandy KA-1 MkIII amp to compare the LM3875 to. And Monitor Audio Silver S1 to use instead of the B&W 805s.

But, alas, our new baby keeps me from doing any intense listening tests. Perhaps next weekend my wife and daughter will go shopping and I can spend some time. Hopefully I will have real transformers and an Alps Black Beauty by then.

David
 
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(repost from main thread)

I put up my users guide on my new domain, BrianGT.com. I haven't created a website yet, as I have been beyond busy with other things.

http://www.BrianGT.com

Larger, high resolution pictures from the manual can be found here:
http://brian.darg.net/gallery/nigc-kit

I will be adding a bunch of material to the manual, and had intended for it to be more complete before posting it, but since the kits are already out there, I decided to post the incomplete manual.

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Brian
 
More questions while I wait for my kit to arrive:

* Does the chip come with the legs bent like that, or do I have to bend the legs to line up with the PCB holes? I hope it's the former :)

* Are the PCB dimensions posted anywhere? I'm a little worried I might have picked too small of an enclosure.

* Is it a *really* bad idea to mount the chip to the heatsink/enclosure and leave the PCB hanging? I already have holes in my enclosure (I'm using some old instrument case) that I'd like to use, which means I can't get PCB standoffs to work. I could glue little wood pieces under the PCB to support them (or something else along those lines), or I'll have to drill new holes in the enclosure.

Thanks in advance. I took some pictures of my enclosure (transformer in place, RCA connectors and binding posts added), I'll post them in a little while.

Saurav
 
Saurav said:
More questions while I wait for my kit to arrive:

* Does the chip come with the legs bent like that, or do I have to bend the legs to line up with the PCB holes? I hope it's the former :)
Yes, the legs are already bent and match the holes on the PCB.


* Are the PCB dimensions posted anywhere? I'm a little worried I might have picked too small of an enclosure.
Each board (inluding PS board) is 1 3/16 x 2 7/8 inches, about 3.02 x 7.3cm.



* Is it a *really* bad idea to mount the chip to the heatsink/enclosure and leave the PCB hanging? I already have holes in my enclosure (I'm using some old instrument case) that I'd like to use, which means I can't get PCB standoffs to work. I could glue little wood pieces under the PCB to support them (or something else along those lines), or I'll have to drill new holes in the enclosure.

I wouldn't recommend it. The boards and caps don't weigh all that much, but over time, especially with the chip heating up and cooling down frequently, it could cause the chip's mounting tab to bend or break. Wood or plastic supports would work fine, and I'm sure you could find standoffs of the right size somewhere, anyway.
 
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