Hi Valeri,
Did you check analog supply voltage of chips? Since the chips supplied separately, probably one of regulators got out of 5V.
Hi terranigma,
Thank you for a good advise. No I did not make yet good troubleshooting. IT is planned for tomorrow when I will have oscilloscope.
My CDT is CDPro2 and has I2S output. Does this mean I can skip the receiver and connect the I2S output directly to the 4 resistors and a GND signal?
You can build a smal signal relay switcher in order to switch 4 i2s signals between onboard receiver and other i2s interface like Amanero.
Here is another discussion about it:
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/digital-source/233282-weiliang-dac9-ak4399-33.html#post4015469
Hi terranigma,
Thank you for a good advise. No I did not make yet good troubleshooting. IT is planned for tomorrow when I will have oscilloscope.
Excessive load on analog outputs warns with highly distorted sound at first, thus imbalance of sound between left and right. If you didn't observe such thing, you have to check voltages on both analog and digital supply pins of both chips before replacing the dac chip.
Hi Valeri100
terranigma made some good points
I checked your pictures. I think the adjustment pin capacitor of analog +5V regulator for left channel has wrong polarity. It's the small 10uf cap of the middle regulator. Please check that regulator and cap.
edit: sorry, it's correct in your version
Nino
terranigma made some good points
I checked your pictures. I think the adjustment pin capacitor of analog +5V regulator for left channel has wrong polarity. It's the small 10uf cap of the middle regulator. Please check that regulator and cap.
edit: sorry, it's correct in your version
Nino
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Not quite in the topic.
But for information. I have another mini DAC from Weyliang. PCM1794 +XMOS. He sounds pretty good with the LT1498(I/V) and OPa1612 (filter) operational amplifiers . Who has the DAC PCM1794 - is the best option out of many best operational amplifiers. In addition, he works usb-spdif converter. There is a similar mini DAC AK4399.
But double ak4399 certainly better.
But for information. I have another mini DAC from Weyliang. PCM1794 +XMOS. He sounds pretty good with the LT1498(I/V) and OPa1612 (filter) operational amplifiers . Who has the DAC PCM1794 - is the best option out of many best operational amplifiers. In addition, he works usb-spdif converter. There is a similar mini DAC AK4399.
But double ak4399 certainly better.
Hi guys,
Thank you very much for supporting me with your advices.
It seems that one AK4399 is out of order. Output voltage is +1,8 V on VoutL-, VoutR-, VoutR+ which is not normal (must be +2,5 V) and + 2,5 on VouL+. I have checked that all 3 LT1085 regulators provide +5 V on its output.
I did not checked it on AK4399 pins due to small size of pins and small distance between pins.
I was not sure that I could put oscilloscope probe exactly on pins without short cutting 2 neighbor pins.
I think the described measurements lead to conclusion that AK4399 is faulty. If you don't think so please post your opinion. I'll appreciate it.
Best regards
Valeri
Thank you very much for supporting me with your advices.
It seems that one AK4399 is out of order. Output voltage is +1,8 V on VoutL-, VoutR-, VoutR+ which is not normal (must be +2,5 V) and + 2,5 on VouL+. I have checked that all 3 LT1085 regulators provide +5 V on its output.
I did not checked it on AK4399 pins due to small size of pins and small distance between pins.
I was not sure that I could put oscilloscope probe exactly on pins without short cutting 2 neighbor pins.
I think the described measurements lead to conclusion that AK4399 is faulty. If you don't think so please post your opinion. I'll appreciate it.
Best regards
Valeri
If you don't think so please post your opinion. I'll appreciate it.
I thought that was obvious due to brownish color of dac in question, if it is not something else than burn.
Maybe the IC has died because some loose little chip of solder came between the pins...When I received my assembled PCB, I discovered some little solder threads/spots on the board, due to sloppy soldering. So I carefully removed them, to avoid damage to the components in case of coming loose.
If you are going to solder the new DAC, I would desolder the decoupling electrolytics around it temporarily , to have some more working space with the iron. You must prepare well, you don't get a second chance if the chip isn't aligned well on the pads. I use the aid of a lamp with magnifying glass for this kind of work.
If you are going to solder the new DAC, I would desolder the decoupling electrolytics around it temporarily , to have some more working space with the iron. You must prepare well, you don't get a second chance if the chip isn't aligned well on the pads. I use the aid of a lamp with magnifying glass for this kind of work.
If you are going to solder the new DAC, I would desolder the decoupling electrolytics around it temporarily , to have some more working space with the iron. You must prepare well, you don't get a second chance if the chip isn't aligned well on the pads. I use the aid of a lamp with magnifying glass for this kind of work.
Hi Nino,
Thank you for advice. You are right capacitors are to close to the chip. I will temporary remove it.
I was searching for a good flux. In the past I always was using a liquid one but now I see that most offers are kind of gel lie this one . Is is better? Is it good enough for soldering such kind of chips like AK4399?
Originally Posted by Sansun22
Using the UTO output is much more superior to any of the opamps I tried - including those discrete opamps like DEXA, Op01 and HDAM. Yet, I also noticed that the Op01 and HDAM are using newer jfets like K246, J103, K30A etc. that; as alleged, not the best jfets. Since I am still having 1000+ of K107 and J74 that I bought 6-7 years ago; both GR and BL grades, I will change them and see if these two discrete opamps can perform better with the swap.[/QUOTE]
Hi Sunsun22,
How did you changed the J FET´s on the HDAM?
Q6 K246>>>K170
Q7 J103>>>J74
Q1 K30A>>>?
Q2 K30A>>>?
Thanks in advance.
Using the UTO output is much more superior to any of the opamps I tried - including those discrete opamps like DEXA, Op01 and HDAM. Yet, I also noticed that the Op01 and HDAM are using newer jfets like K246, J103, K30A etc. that; as alleged, not the best jfets. Since I am still having 1000+ of K107 and J74 that I bought 6-7 years ago; both GR and BL grades, I will change them and see if these two discrete opamps can perform better with the swap.[/QUOTE]
Hi Sunsun22,
How did you changed the J FET´s on the HDAM?
Q6 K246>>>K170
Q7 J103>>>J74
Q1 K30A>>>?
Q2 K30A>>>?
Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by Sansun22
Using the UTO output is much more superior to any of the opamps I tried - including those discrete opamps like DEXA, Op01 and HDAM. Yet, I also noticed that the Op01 and HDAM are using newer jfets like K246, J103, K30A etc. that; as alleged, not the best jfets. Since I am still having 1000+ of K107 and J74 that I bought 6-7 years ago; both GR and BL grades, I will change them and see if these two discrete opamps can perform better with the swap.
A link for uto output?
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Hi Valeri100...
I was searching for a good flux. In the past I always was using a liquid one but now I see that most offers are kind of gel lie this one . Is is better? Is it good enough for soldering such kind of chips like AK4399?
I use liquid flux too, but I can imagine the gel type of flux helps a bit to keep the chip in it's place. I remember seeing a utube video where it was used for soldering SMT components.
A link for uto output?
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Hi Keres,
I have seen 2 documents about the UTO:
www.diyhifisupply.com/files/Installation ManualUTS1.41loRz.pdf
www.troelsgravesen.dk/EZ_Line-Stage_files/EZ_Line-Stage.pdf
Probably my mistake but I don't see the uto in dyyhifisupply , have you a directory link?Jfet replacement for HDAM
Q1Q2
K30 > K170
Supplier of UTO is from diyhifisupply.com
Partsconnexion is having a good price.
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Probably my mistake but I don't see the uto in dyyhifisupply , have you a directory link?
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Universal Stereo Tube Output Stage
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