There is a saying in Africa: "Nothing is more dangerous as an old lion, just before it goes down". So true.
As the age of empires building and crumbling speeds up considearably, compared to the days of old.. We enter the time of the empire of America. The technologies have evolved. The time frames have shortened. A simplistic statement... but don't fault it. Histrionics involving my 'oversimplification' do nothing to alleviate the realities. In the end, hard, simple rules are the only ones that ever apply. Discussion be dammed. Realities of historical situations, if remembered.. have had a way of walking into boardrooms of discssion and removing them as a problem ...as they stand in the way of direct action. Or in the way of those that make the real decisions. Something that those who discuss have always (seemingly) been blatantly unaware of.
But the results and effects (of empires building and crumbling)have not changed. When America crumbles, the mess will be quite horrid. That old lion WILL wreak havoc with the rest of the planet, in this process of crumbling. Ugly it will be.
And I have to live next to that animalistic piece of crap... Why animalistic as a statement? In complex systems involving humans, the lowest common denominator always rules. Look at your history. Too many people forget it, or don't know it. A fatal flaw.
NOT FUN.
As the age of empires building and crumbling speeds up considearably, compared to the days of old.. We enter the time of the empire of America. The technologies have evolved. The time frames have shortened. A simplistic statement... but don't fault it. Histrionics involving my 'oversimplification' do nothing to alleviate the realities. In the end, hard, simple rules are the only ones that ever apply. Discussion be dammed. Realities of historical situations, if remembered.. have had a way of walking into boardrooms of discssion and removing them as a problem ...as they stand in the way of direct action. Or in the way of those that make the real decisions. Something that those who discuss have always (seemingly) been blatantly unaware of.
But the results and effects (of empires building and crumbling)have not changed. When America crumbles, the mess will be quite horrid. That old lion WILL wreak havoc with the rest of the planet, in this process of crumbling. Ugly it will be.
And I have to live next to that animalistic piece of crap... Why animalistic as a statement? In complex systems involving humans, the lowest common denominator always rules. Look at your history. Too many people forget it, or don't know it. A fatal flaw.
NOT FUN.
Warning, the above is baseless speculation considering the history.thoriated said:
Anyway, it's very interesting to see the idiot in chief fooking your brains up. orange - yellow - red whatever, and what are the targets? The damn terrorirsts aren't that stupid to attack extremely well guarded building, but the average american has fear when he hears that as a possibility. Who benefits from the fear inflicted?
Do you really think that if the terrorists have the required resources to do something big on US soil they can't do it? No matter how many officers("officer"? you call officers alomost everybody, the remaining are sheriffs) you got, you can't stop them. They can blow up bridges, railways whatever. Just as easely as everywhere else, for example in Spain. Look at Israel, they have maybe the best security measures in the whole world. Can someone stop the terrorist from blowing themselfes up in Israel? Not that I saw it.
Well, some people here think 9/11 was rather a serious event..... and don't feel the obligation to condemn every action of the current administration regardless of what it is. Plus, relative to most nations in Europe, the US is still more open even with the current security measures in place.
Also, what is your reaction to the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission which has proposed a much greater concentration of 'anti-terrorism' power and authority in a single individual than the Bush Administration has felt necessary?
The great majority of terrorist plots and acts in the US and Israel are indeed thwarted. From a good source, I learn that about 90% of the would be Palestinian suicide bombers never get to perform the intended final act.
Also, what is your reaction to the recommendation of the 9/11 Commission which has proposed a much greater concentration of 'anti-terrorism' power and authority in a single individual than the Bush Administration has felt necessary?
The great majority of terrorist plots and acts in the US and Israel are indeed thwarted. From a good source, I learn that about 90% of the would be Palestinian suicide bombers never get to perform the intended final act.
KBK said:
I agree. As far as the crumbling of America, I am not a historian, but you're probably correct. The part I quoted seems almost obvious. I do not think America will not be one country in a few decades. I think there's a book about this, but I came to this conclusion before I heard there was a book with this theory . As far as America crumbling, it depends what you mean?
I think we all know that SUV sales have gone up while gas prices have gone up in 2004. Every car company has a SUV now, even (the supposed idealistic) Saturn. Problem is driving a SUV for most people is not a necessity it's a phycological advantage they have over all the other people on the road. Though they are somewhat/sometimes slower (speed limit is 65 MPH where I live on the freeway) than cars this doesn't matter because the message is clear: I have a SUV don't mess with me I'm though and I'm somebody . . . I also sit higher than you so I'm superior or atleast I feel superior. This attitude is more preventent in America because if there's one thing America teaches you is that you need to be tougher and better than anybody else and you need to do it in an arrogent semi-delusional manner. Whether you feel this is positive or negative depends on who you are I guess. Hey, those are the rules
I'd change them if I could, but I can't. See (for you non-Americans) I'll explain it real easy, in America everybody looks to a**holes for inspiration (overly simplistic I know 
), and then they say "Yes! That's who I want to be," which results in the attitudes you see for yourselves.
roibm said:
The mass media
Audience guarantied even when theres a no show
Who is in charge at RED alert? and for how long?
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How did we got here is the issue ...coz in many cases the capitalism as the current leading trend has developed in an amazing kinnd'a way,various ways of 'resources dispozal techniques' wich by any meanings contradicts with the long term oil resources forecast.I don't plea against capitalism by this but this leading algorithm offers us a better way of life but at what cost ..in my view there is a lot to be analized ...by now our civ is only distruction and all our technological processes involve in all the cases cracking thchniques.Not to be wrongly understood but to openly discuss an issue is one ,but to actually get it rollig is another thing.That must become an worldwide issue with constructive ends not another way to 'loose' invaluable resources.
In the end is hard to stop this effective high comsuming process. In my view it can be done only if 'all the humans' can really understand the threats to wich we may become victims in future.Or maybe this is is one of the enlighting ending stages that we must pass in our evolution as a global civilisation.
In the end is hard to stop this effective high comsuming process. In my view it can be done only if 'all the humans' can really understand the threats to wich we may become victims in future.Or maybe this is is one of the enlighting ending stages that we must pass in our evolution as a global civilisation.
Brian Donaldson said:
Perhaps when oil is $100 a barrel and those nasty regimes you rely on to sustain your gluttony are long gone you''ll get it. Or maybe you'll only see the light when hurricane Kingdaddy blows large chunks of Florida past your window. Most likely though you'll get it when the implications of 4% of the worlds population seeking to continue to use 25% of the worlds resources hit home.
When oil gets to $100 a barrel, I doubt that I'll change a thing other than maybe delay raises for my employees. I'll still be paying less got gasoline than most of you socialist Europeans.
Brian/ Proudly part of the 4%
I started running my 400,000 BTU swimming pool heater now that night time temps are dropping below 75 deg F. There's nothing as nice as taking a swim in 90 deg F water at night.
Brian/ Proudly part of the 4%
I started running my 400,000 BTU swimming pool heater now that night time temps are dropping below 75 deg F. There's nothing as nice as taking a swim in 90 deg F water at night.
I would really like to hear any of your alternatives to using oil for energy. It takes more oil to fuel a car based oh hydrogen fuel than it takes to run it on just oil. The reason for this is that you cant just grab hydrogen out of the air. It takes lots of energy to collect and store hydrogen. Besides nuclear, there really are NO REAL alternatives to using fossil fuels.
In nature, whatever part of the organism is most necessary to survival gets protected the most bc the rest of the body would die if that one part dies. In the past nations and civilizations were not nearly as integrated and codependant as they are today. With the state of technology and communication today, in order for america to fall, the rest of the world would have to fall as well. It would be like chopping a humans head off. In short, America will probibly never fall, and the rest of the world is just ****ed off bc they missed the boat. Although i do think there is a chance that there will be one very large confrontation coming up for dominance.
In nature, whatever part of the organism is most necessary to survival gets protected the most bc the rest of the body would die if that one part dies. In the past nations and civilizations were not nearly as integrated and codependant as they are today. With the state of technology and communication today, in order for america to fall, the rest of the world would have to fall as well. It would be like chopping a humans head off. In short, America will probibly never fall, and the rest of the world is just ****ed off bc they missed the boat. Although i do think there is a chance that there will be one very large confrontation coming up for dominance.
I'm thinking the first part about never falling is simply an emotional typo, and I don't mean the spelling of probably
The second part, well that seems like another typo. If you'd like to talk about missing the boat...
The third part about a large confrontation seems well thought out. Perhaps you have read the newspapers recently.
Actually, your insight about the need for a lot of energy used to create available hydrogen is useful. There are many things about alternative energy that much of the masses are not aware of, including energy usage and pollutants as by-products. But with all the different ways to convert water into it's elemental stages and henceforth useable hydrogen, I don't think that will stand in the way of progressing with the idea.
Thankfully, Ballard Power Systems, here in Burnaby is able to make use of hydro electric power.
As far as no alternative, well, I must say that at this point they may be expensive but I remember the days when an 80 gig computer would have cost more than a year's salary.
Nothing personal Chris just my Saturday thoughts about gum flapping,
Cal
Chris8sirhC said:
Methanole, ethanole, methane via biogas and sunflower oil (sun flowers are the best solor batteries you can get)
But who would want a 30 trillian dollor per year farming industry or non toxic fuel oil that you can buy direct from your farmers that is safe for your kids to drink (if they are that way inclined)
Chris8sirhC said:
Cooking oil can be used straight, as a replacement for diesel.
Alcohol can be used straight, with only changes to jets in the carburettor.
No REAL alternatives
It is only that the global thinking is based on fossel fuel. Before the internal combustion engine took over the race to power cars, steam and electicity were in the running. I am not necessarily advocating steam, but electric cars were in a high state of development by the 1920s. By then they had won land speed records against (now) conventional internal combustion cars. And when it comes to electric cars, how about solar energy? Just park 'em in the sun
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