Advice on meeting women.

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Get a Dog

Not offering suggestions..... just relating a story to point out that it's best to go with your strengths.

My univ room mate had a very cute and very well trained little dog, that the girls just adored.

Adam would head into town, drop the dog off on a corner and then proceed to put "lost dog signs" up everywere. He'd hand out fliers to cute gals while showing much concern over is lost dog. (Dog was street savy and would come home before dark if not taken in.)

Very soon he'd be contacted by someone finding his dog..... off he go with the reward money and frequently not return for days.

Adam BTW is a successful MD and as far as I know still pulling the same stunts.

Cyclotronguy
 
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That youtube video is excellent illustrative example of what works even if it is counter-intuitive. Here is what went right with the dynamic represented in the clip:
1. The male is reasonably fit and has nothing which negatively identifies his lifestyle or social standing. He is socially awkward but the target is an experienced and sophisticated woman who would have probably blown off a "smooth operator" approach. The method here is to appeal to the maternal instinct.
2. In spite of his clumsiness, he continued to keep the conversation going. Remember, if the female continues to speak to you, you still have a shot.
3. He maintains eye contact and is clearly interested in the female which she notes, understands and accepts for all his ineptitude. I hope this buttresses my prior posts and helps you understand that even nerdy boys score if they know their target.

Well, just so you know, it doesn't go well for our poor Jeff...
 
The thing is this. Women of child bearing age up to when the children are old enough to leave are looking for a man who is a good provider and will make a good father. I'm not old fashioned either. It's women's hormones that make them feel this way. After child rearing age, women are looking for an equal partner. So, to make yourself attractive to women of your age, make yourself into the type of man who they will find attractive. If you are young, make yourself into a good provider and good potential father. If you are past about 50, make yourself into someone who can be an equal partner.
 
Some Practical Advice

The OP has at least one skill he can use to get people to initiate conversations. Cooking.
If ever invited somewhere, bring some you made and make it interesting and healthy. Then also volunteer to help out when you are there. Set out things, serve, clean up. Women will notice and will talk to you. Don't brag, if praised be modest, be interested and interesting, stay on topic, make eye contact and most importantly don't ever let anyone get a hint of desparate.
If hobbies come up feel free to mention (briefly) the things you like to do but don't go on about them.
Read lots of "girlie" magazines and I don't mean the ones with naked girls in them. This gives you an idea of what they are reading and how they think.

As Red Green would say "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy"
 
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After child rearing age, women are looking for an equal partner
Equal not so much I think. Essentially they'll take anyone who is not their partner. Women like variety even more so than men. Why do you think they have so many shoes? When men generally just have one pair.

Don't take it personally when a woman wants to dump you after 4, 7, 10 or 15 years. Even if you are the best man in the world. **** happens.
 
There are about as many women looking for men as the other way around.

I am Googling for a knitting forum where a similar issue is being discussed, but then from the opposite side of the gender gap. As soon as I find one, I hope to find a technical means to cross link.

No, seriously, there are herds of uncertain single women around, as many as men (statistically, actually even somewhat more, but they are the old ones), so the best way forward is: be yourself. Start doing what you like most, go out in the process, and the rest will come. Any amount of game play will only land you on the couch with the wrong one.

vac
 
Advice on how to meet women, from a woman.

I have no clue where normal sociable young ladies congregate, and even less idea how to engage them in a more meaningful way than banter.

I get advice to "just be myself" and to "not worry about it so much". I'm sure that works great for people because they often spend time with a good mix of people which includes friendly single women. I don't.

Does anyone have any advice?

Right, first off - get off diyaudio & step away from your laptop - it will still be there later.

Women do not use these websites; I only know of this website because of my boyfriend.

Go outside, what music are you into? Look into where a gig or party or whatever is and go; the women there will most likely be there because they like the music too so that's something to talk about.

Before you go make sure you have a shower and smell nice, if you stink then no girl is going to want to talk to you.

Don't be awkward, smile, socialise, dance, don't be the weirdo in the corner that nobody wants to talk to! Maybe try and make some new bloke mates, they will probably have single girl mates in their group. '

Go get laid.

Soundbadgers girlfriend.
 
That's a a BIG problem for many. Let's pretend to be somebody else. Somebody interesting for a change.



So tell me, which one is the right one Nostradamus?

Let's say you are someone not very interesting, how on earth could you ever pretend to be somebody else? That is because all successful liers are interesting people, you see.

And so let's suppose you are the exception to his rule, and that, even as a complete bore, you are succesful in pretending that you are somebody much more exciting. Any woman falling in love with you, would actually be falling in love with that somebody else you pretended to be. And then one day, you will be sitting on your sofa, and this reality will hit you in full force. Or she will, or a combination of both.

vac
 
Let's say you are someone not very interesting, how on earth could you ever pretend to be somebody else? That is because all successful liers are interesting people, you see.

And so let's suppose you are the exception to his rule, and that, even as a complete bore, you are succesful in pretending that you are somebody much more exciting. Any woman falling in love with you, would actually be falling in love with that somebody else you pretended to be. And then one day, you will be sitting on your sofa, and this reality will hit you in full force. Or she will, or a combination of both.

vac

...and how many sitcom TV shows and movies been about just this thing? I've never actually heard of this in reality though I assume it does occur.
 
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Any woman falling in love with you, would actually be falling in love with that somebody else you pretended to be.

It's all an illusion and illusions wear off after a certain amount of time. Women fall in love for different reasons: beauty, money, social position, etc. It all depends on how old is the woman. When they are young all they care for is good looks. They may like your character but if you're as ugly as **** they wouldn't want to go to bed with you no matter how charming your personality is. So, if you wear stylish clothes and shoes with high heels (lol) you're creating an illusion. As I said before this only gets you to her secret chamber but then, depending on your performance, :)D) the rest can be much easier.


And then one day, you will be sitting on your sofa, and this reality will hit you in full force.

It happens to any man. One day you will realize she's no longer in love with you.
 
It's all an illusion and illusions wear off after a certain amount of time. Women fall in love for different reasons: beauty, money, social position, etc. It all depends on how old is the woman. When they are young all they care for is good looks. They may like your character but if you're as ugly as **** they wouldn't want to go to bed with you no matter how charming your personality is. So, if you wear stylish clothes and shoes with high heels (lol) you're creating an illusion. As I said before this only gets you to her secret chamber but then, depending on your performance, :)D) the rest can be much easier.

This is very much a cultural thing. You're Japanese... Americans are different. In America, the women tend to see a good provider and father in a man who has money and status. In Europe, where women are more equal to men, they care more about good looks and ability to care for children in a man. I don't know which features Japanese women see in their men to make them attractive.

Age is important, as I stated in a previous post. Women of child bearing age tend to look for a man who is, or can be, a good provider for their children. Being a good provider is different in various cultures around the world. Older women look for something different.

Now, I'm talking about a woman who is seriously interested in a long term relationship only. Obviously, there are women of various ages only interested in men for sex or other reasons for short term pleasure. I've been subjected to women on a few occasions who were only interested in some pleasure and not long term commitment. It's not fun after a short while, and the "relationship" goes no where quickly.
 
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