Chassis Discussion

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Originally Posted by Sprags
When are top panels going to have options such as no vents and custom cnc machining?

Within the week. You might be learning how accurate my estimations of progress are in general, but I actually think this will happen before the end of next week as it's my #1 priority at the moment after fixing the Wiki


I know you implied I shouldn't hold my breat but I really would like get started on a project and top (and bottom) panels without any holes other than to attach it to the other chassis components sure would be nice. I'm going to use the amp for a tube amp and the vents are not needed.
 
Couple of questions:

One asked above, is there an option or plans for an option for the 10 row fully vented top plate, specifically for the pesante chassis?

Also, I see from the modushop site that the steel rear panels of the pesante series cannot be machined (because they are steel, I suppose, and would require a different tool setup?). Is that also a limitation from the diyaudio store?

A follow-on question... I need the internal width of the pesante vs the dissipante. If machining the rear steel panel of the pesante isn't an option, can a 3mm rear panel be ordered separately with machining, and would it fit? Or would I need to investigate having the steel panel machined elsewhere, or going through frontpanel express or similar to have a custom one made? I read through this thread (!!) but didn't catch whether that Aluminum rear panels are a possible option or not for the pesante.

Last question - the multihole bottom plate option - from a page ago it sounds like this raises the floor several mm. I assume that is true for the pesante as well? Does it replace the solid floor panel, or is it in addition to, mounted a bit above?

Thanks for anyone that knows!
 
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I sincerely apologize for being AWOL the last two weeks. This absence has been due to me relocating internationally, and getting way off track while trying to obtain the basics one needs to live. I've been answering only the most urgent emails during this time, and neglecting anything that wasn't super urgent, including this thread and many other things. I've now got the essentials sorted out and my living situation is now stable, and I look forward to getting back "into work mode" shortly as there's a lot on the cards for 2016.

Again, I do apologize to anyone who has been waiting for responses, or afore-promised updates to the store, and therefore had their own projects or plans on hold. I really am sorry for the lack of communication. I'll do my best to ensure I never fail to prioritise communication in the future.

I will respond to all the outstanding questions tomorrow.
 
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THIS is a gentle reminder regarding the possibility of the Store offering heatsinks alone as per pre-drilled options for 4U and 5U Store cases.

Any progress Jason?

Many thanks.

I will implement this as soon as possible, both standard and pre-drilled. I can't give an ETA, but definitely within the next 4 days.

I am interested as well except non drilled 4u heat sink with mounting angles top and bottom. This would make easier to swap out complete heat sink and boards.

Jim

Agree that being able to swap out heatsinks (and therefore projects) on the one chassis is a great idea and has many potential benefits! As an aside, there was some discussion previously about the fact that it's not a piece of cake to make the swap, due to the way the screws are done. We might change this in the future, but for now, you can accomplish this with some DIY - drilling your own holes and adding bolts that can be accessed from the side.

Is it possible to specify a fully vented cover for a chassis? This would be for a Pesante or Slimline. The modushop site indicates it's a €5 option and can only be purchase at the time the chassis is ordered.

Within the next 4 days.



It *was* my #1 work priority, and still is, unfortunately my move got in the way (I haven't touched anything else in between). 4 days :)

Couple of questions:

One asked above, is there an option or plans for an option for the 10 row fully vented top plate, specifically for the pesante chassis?

There will be shortly.

Also, I see from the modushop site that the steel rear panels of the pesante series cannot be machined (because they are steel, I suppose, and would require a different tool setup?). Is that also a limitation from the diyaudio store?

That's correct. They can't be machined.

A follow-on question... I need the internal width of the pesante vs the dissipante. If machining the rear steel panel of the pesante isn't an option, can a 3mm rear panel be ordered separately with machining, and would it fit? Or would I need to investigate having the steel panel machined elsewhere, or going through frontpanel express or similar to have a custom one made? I read through this thread (!!) but didn't catch whether that Aluminum rear panels are a possible option or not for the pesante.

I regards to putting an aluminum panel on the back of an otherwise steel covered dissipante, I have gone through some email history where I asked this very question and the answer is "Aluminium rear panels cannot fit chassis with steel covers". So, no - you'll need to use a chassis with all aluminum panels. I don't have a steel one handy so I can't tell you why this is the case right now, but I have a feeling the steel covers have lips that the aluminum ones don't, and that stops the aluminum panel from fitting.

The store pages should have all the internal and external dimensions for all 400 or so chassis permutations, and there is a general PDF diagram that explains how those dimensions apply to the chassis in practical terms. If there is a dimension that isn't covered or any problem with looking up this information please let me know - I did try to make it as clear as possible. Please note that as you select different chassis variations, the dimension data will change dynamically so you might need to scroll up and down to see that.

I'm not sure if steel panels can be drilled, I will ask and let you know.

Last question - the multihole bottom plate option - from a page ago it sounds like this raises the floor several mm. I assume that is true for the pesante as well? Does it replace the solid floor panel, or is it in addition to, mounted a bit above?

Thanks for anyone that knows!

It's in addition to. The regular base is just there for good looks and keeping dust out. The perforated base is much stiffer and the ideal way to mount heavy stuff without turning your bottom cover into swiss cheese.

The perforated base can be mounted either way. As designed, it's meant to be mounted with the flanges/lips facing upwards. This creates more room in the chassis cavity.

In the Deluxe chassis, you might like to mount it with the flanges down. One reason for this is that then you can use riser panels which will perfectly align with the chassis 10mm front panel and secure riser panels to both the front panel and the base at the same time, so the riser panel is secured on two axis'. Another reason is that it creates a slightly cleaner look because you only see the smooth "top" surface of the base, and not the flanges. If you mount it this way, you need to use longer bolts.

Those bolts are included in the Deluxe chassis (and not found anywhere else) solely for the convenience of people who want to do this.

Has anyone in Canada ordered a chassis? What is the shipping like? Was there duty?

I know one guy did and he was amazed how cheap the shipping was. I'm not sure about duty.
 
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If machining the rear steel panel of the pesante isn't an option, can a 3mm rear panel be ordered separately with machining, and would it fit? Or would I need to investigate having the steel panel machined elsewhere, or going through frontpanel express or similar to have a custom one made?

To address this... steel panels can't be drilled, but they can be CNC cut. However the minimum order quantity for CNC cutting of steel panels is around 20 pieces.
 
Thanks so much for the answers Jason.

I've also had some dialog with Modushop trying to sort out the small mounting differences between aluminum slim line and steel pesante panels. My rear panel is going to be full, and "as is" can't lose the internal width going to the slim line chassis, but it seems like the best all around solution will be to see if I can tighten up things just enough to make that work. Then no fussing with drilling steel, fitting a panel that wasn't designed to fit, etc.

Eventually I may need up to a dozen identical cases, but not 20, and that sounds expensive anyways!

Thanks again. And with the extra options being added soon, sounds like I could order everything through the diy store instead of going direct from italy.
 
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When you guys use indicator LED's in these chassis, do you usually drill the hole yourself or order a custom front panel? Do you aim for a friction fit with the LED or is there some sort of mount that you use?

I know this doesn't address your question directly, but I thought I'd mention it as it's related. If you're using the Deluxe chassis front panels, on the back of the 10mm front panel there is an LED "pilot hole" 1/3 of the way from the bottom (or 1/3 of the way from the top if you flip it upside down). You can drill through that so you know you have a nicely centered hole.