Hey Curly, keep taking good care of your customers, you, not the cables, amps, etc that you sell, are why they return to do business with you.
The market place is a social event science boys, and if the product is good enough and the customer can pay the price, they are going to go to a place where people treat him/her with care and respect. You cannot be a successful salesman for 20 years, in any business that depends upon repeat customers, without your care being genuine. The purchase is less than 10% of what Curly provides.
This is built right into our structure, just watch a chimpanzee troop for a while....
Bud
The market place is a social event science boys, and if the product is good enough and the customer can pay the price, they are going to go to a place where people treat him/her with care and respect. You cannot be a successful salesman for 20 years, in any business that depends upon repeat customers, without your care being genuine. The purchase is less than 10% of what Curly provides.
This is built right into our structure, just watch a chimpanzee troop for a while....
Bud
Thank you Bud. I tried to always be honest, first and foremost. One lie will ruin your reputation for ever in this business. Professional people seem to know when they are getting their legs peed on
Sy I apologize for called you Fred
I was reading the post below yours when I click reply I guess. I am obviously mistaken about Peter's earlier work. It has been almost 30 years ago that I recall Peter's first works and must have forgotten his roots. IAR was a much more popular rag back then along with Absolute Sound. Gordon had a good following at Stereophile, but it was never a big seller for us for what ever reason. Gordon was a fair and honest man though.what a thread I would love to hear godzilla here some thing like "red or white wine" believing or not believing is left up to believer but the truth is that wire is the part of the system in certain acoustic space so if there is no measurable differences between cables in the system response that means cable make no difference oras Bob noticed we have no tools to measure it and we may say that earth is flat
No, I said 2% market share. Audio stores are nearly a non-factor, dinosaurs disappearing rapidly (or evolving into custom home theater outlets). Far more speaker cable is sold at Home Depot in a day than all the audio stores combined in a year.
"Stop calling me Fred, my name's Adolf!"
(that was for Steve Eddy's amusement)
Well in that case I can not argue. Home Depot vs anyone else is not a competition at all.
The reason that hi-fi stores are going away is the economy. They will return once we get the economy back in full swing again. There is simply not enough disposable income in the middle class to support almost any hobbies these days. There cycles in every business and right now hi-fi is on the down side. Maybe I am an optimist, but people will buy better products, when they can afford it. Shelter, food and transportation are foremost for every family these days.
I clearly remember the first time I saw ROTEL amps in a shop
Small preamp with 60-100watt stereo poweramp
And quite cheap too
I asked the salesman if I could hear it
I listened to it, up against an integrated Technics NewClassA
When I said the ROTEL was the better one, the salesman looked very surpriced and said "NO, Tehcnics is better"
Small preamp with 60-100watt stereo poweramp
And quite cheap too
I asked the salesman if I could hear it
I listened to it, up against an integrated Technics NewClassA
When I said the ROTEL was the better one, the salesman looked very surpriced and said "NO, Tehcnics is better"
I hope you're right, but unfortunately, I think you're wrong. There just seems to be less interest in high quality sound (beyond boom-boom car stereo) and the experience of just sitting and listening to music. Kids think that hi fi is for '60s era old farts like me to listen to music played by a bunch of dead guys who didn't even do a video for MTV. The overwhelming commercial success of MP3 and compression certainly suggest that this is true.
Pity.
Let's see, I remember walking around with a little plastic brick in my pocket, listening to the local AM radio stations with an ear bud. I bought the music I heard. I traveled in herds. We were nothing unusual. We bought everything we could afford. Music sales soared, after nearly dying out in the 50's. Rock and roll took over. music sales soared.
I now find I have a bunch of recordings made in the 40's and 50's and I like them...now.
So, here we are, with kids listening to much better sound than I did. They aren't quite in herds, but there are a lot more of them than when my now 40 year old son was of that age. Do you actually think they aren't going to become civilized, and sedated couch lumps? Why would they be different , compared to historical fact? Curly may have the right of it here, though he might not live long enough to laugh about it.
Bud
I now find I have a bunch of recordings made in the 40's and 50's and I like them...now.
So, here we are, with kids listening to much better sound than I did. They aren't quite in herds, but there are a lot more of them than when my now 40 year old son was of that age. Do you actually think they aren't going to become civilized, and sedated couch lumps? Why would they be different , compared to historical fact? Curly may have the right of it here, though he might not live long enough to laugh about it.
Bud
I don't know about 20 years. The stores that I was associated with did very well until early 2000. The economy started its slide back then and is finally hit critical mass (I hope it does not get worse). The store closed in 2004.
The other problem I have noticed with Hi Fi shops is their selection. Back in the 70's and 80's, Hi Fi shops not only carried high end equipment, but also entry level equipment from brands like Sony, Kenwood, Technics, etc. According to my dealer at the time, most of his business was in the entry level equipment.
When stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. started showing up, they could not compete on price for the entry level equipment, and started to lose most their business.
There used to be three Hi Fi shops in my town, they all went under in the late 80's and early 90's, long before the current economic slump.
When stores like Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. started showing up, they could not compete on price for the entry level equipment, and started to lose most their business.
There used to be three Hi Fi shops in my town, they all went under in the late 80's and early 90's, long before the current economic slump.
Oh, I don't know about that. Vinyl is enjoying a resurgence of popularity with the young'uns, and they think it sounds better than squished-up MP3s. The kids are all right, bless their tattooed little hearts.
Shoot, we went through the same thing with cassettes (remember them?) replacing vinyl, and things got better when CDs replaced those nasty little tapes. Took a while for the bugs to get sorted out, but I've heard some mighty good digital recently. Eventually the youngsters will find things sound better with less compression and bands will remaster their records so the music can breathe. It's just a matter of time.
Pity about the cable. I'd bet a bottle there was nothing wrong with it save a bit of corrosion on the connector, which unplugging and plugging back in would've sorted out. Was one channel worse than the other?
Aussie reds, yum yum. And the wine isn't bad either, nudge nudge wink wink.
No, yes.
I think more kids are listening to music; what % of teens have ipods?
The problem is there not buying music. The decline over the last ten years mirrors the growth of the internet(Limewire etc). (the one light at the end of that tunnel, Itunes store.)
I see a dark age comming (I dont think it will last but who knows how long?) Less money into the record labels = less risk talking = less new bands getting signed, so we hear more and more established bands and less new music. Throw in the MTV mentality of a new band every song (the preference of the young for DJs over live music) and the future looks dim. Where will the next generation of bands come from? No gigs to hone your chops, and when you do put out an album, most people steal it.
I'd have to disagree with the Homeopathic Drugs one SY. I don't have any scientific proof, but I do have the benefit of observation. When you have a 6 month old baby and nothing is working, and you give her some homeopathic drops that are intended to fix the ailment she is suffering from and within a short time the problem is solved, I think that any argument about placebo effect or other things which are used to explain the effectiveness of homeopathy go out the window.
I was extremely dubious as to whether the homeopathic treatement would have any effect at all, but out of desparation tried it and to my suprise it worked extremely well (this was for treating stomach pains). This was a purely homeopathic treatment, there weren't any other "non active" ingredients that may have had the effect.
Tony.
I'd agree, unlikely to be placebo. But homeopathy is a crock, nonetheless.
But you're proof of exactly what I said. You're the opposite of a drooling moron, an intelligent and articulate fellow, yet you can believe in the patently untrue. Much like my hope that the Orioles will be a contender again one day.
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