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bkdog 3rd October 2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrogen Alex (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post5932951.html#post5932951)
If its a $6,000 to $7,000 RRP then its dead in the water.... RME and Dolby Lake have killer pro solutions at these prices.

Nope, not with the same capabilities.

Tranquility Bass 3rd October 2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrogen Alex (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post5932951.html#post5932951)
If its a $6,000 to $7,000 RRP then its dead in the water.... RME and Dolby Lake have killer pro solutions at these prices.

Sorry but I'm not selling a pro-audio solution with only a 96Khz sampling rate, 24 bit conversion and 4 outputs as in the Lake audio case. There's not a single RCA connector on it either !

cheers
david

mixMZ 3rd October 2019 02:33 PM

I really hoped for some more realistic DIY prices but looks like it will better to wait for dsp version from Okto dac8 who already selling their dac8 pro and stereo for at least 3x less...

mickiboi007 3rd October 2019 02:48 PM

The Octo 8 is just a DAC and nothing else. No preamp, No phono input, No DSP, No analog inputs, actually not much at all, FOR 3 TIMES LESS. Didn't they have a DSP version, what happened to it? What are they selling now minidsp pulled the rug from underneath them? They have nothing.

You guys obviously cant read and compare products and specs.

The psychology here is you see minidsp for 80 bucks, a DAC on aliexpress for 100 bucks and expect everyone else to match it. So go and buy the cheap crap.

Omholt 3rd October 2019 02:59 PM

Okto Research are working on a new DSP. Should be available next year, probably first or second quarter.

DSP_Geek 3rd October 2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrogen Alex (https://www.diyaudio.com/forums/vendor-s-bazaar/264743-hi-dsp-based-multi-channel-integrated-preamp-crossover-dac-project-post5932951.html#post5932951)
If its a $6,000 to $7,000 RRP then its dead in the water.... RME and Dolby Lake have killer pro solutions at these prices.

Which RME? They make a passel of nice looking AD/DA convertors, but I haven't found anything specifically aimed at speaker control.

Dolby Lakes can do Butterworth/LR filters, true, but FIR configurations are not on the menu. With some A/B testing I can hear phase rotation between 100 Hz and 250 Hz so IIR filters, at least in that range, are a non-starter for me.

soundchaser 3rd October 2019 03:39 PM

Closest thing I can find is the Legacy Audio Wavelet Preamp; no phono, 96kHz, 5k USD. Not sure what the programming requirements are.

As far as I can see there is no RME or Dolby Lake product that is even close.

I am happy with mine.

mickiboi007 3rd October 2019 03:48 PM

I have the answer. Anyone who thinks it is too expensive, go to university for 6 years, get a job in an industry for 20 years and refine your programming, circuit design, analog and digital signal processing skills, spend countless hours after your day job designing, testing and refining your software and hardware, invest your own money at a loss in a batch of 10 preamps for testing, distrubute them worldwide, gather the feedback from the recipients, incorporate that feedback into your new design and then do it all over again. NOW GIVE IT AWAY FOR NOTHING. If you think you can do better then do it. Or as I said earlier buy the cheap crap.

badman 3rd October 2019 05:03 PM

DIYers and sticker shock.... I wish I could afford one but I get by with a pro unit. But a small market startup like this is a tough economic case all around, you're going to pay a solid chunk of money for the device, and the manu is going to have a tough time moving enough units to recoup investment, much less make a profit.

If you want something cheaper or more established that's understandable, but realistically complainants- how many do you think he'll be able to sell? And what hourly salary would his net revenue represent considering the long devel cycle? ROI on the materials used in betas and R&D? Overhead?

I can't justify spending that amount of money but it doesn't mean it's an unfair price.

pinnocchio 3rd October 2019 05:12 PM

+1


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