Rather than Weather Report, I still prefer another type of thing. The audience seems to like it too... YouTube ...Marcus Miller who used to play with Miles, and wrote a few of the tunes, does a thing like Miles did where he carries some up and coming young musicians along in the band. In the above performance they have some guest artists too.
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I always thought Wayne Shorter was another who understood the space between the notes fairly well.
what sort of a nutter gets their keyboard setup backwards?
It's just a unity gain inverter, Bill! 😛
He had one in '68 with the "soapbar" pickups. I wonder what color that one was?
It looks like it might be a 1954 Gold Top with P90 pickups. The bridge is the
give away but hard to tell. I borrowed one playing a gig many years ago and it
was incredible. Surprisingly light for a LP. The best Les Pauls were light in
weight. That timber is no longer available now so they have started
'chambering' them.
TCD
A guitarist ;-) As a (right-handed) guitar player I always felt keyboards are upside down. The "rhythm section" has to be on the right hand and melodies on the left -- now even I can play something meaningful, haha! (I naively test-implemented this in our company's product and then my boss told me the Zawinul story when I proposed this feature for future revisions).what sort of a nutter gets their keyboard setup backwards?
Can someone explain this to me. Seriously.
Every time I go to the crapper and sit there reading my iPad, on DiyAudio, I get get banner adverts for
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Bathroom and shower refits
I’ve had one or two on another site I frequent for pile medication
What the hell is this? Is nothing private anymore?
Every time I go to the crapper and sit there reading my iPad, on DiyAudio, I get get banner adverts for
Automatic bidets
‘Hygienic’ toilet brushes
Bathroom and shower refits
I’ve had one or two on another site I frequent for pile medication
What the hell is this? Is nothing private anymore?
Some iPads have microphones. Yes there is software that will trigger ads based on what it picks up!
So it would be even more rude to say some words to a colleague's device before they go into a presentation.
Removing cookies should help. Not sure you can turn off the microphone.
I also believe this site takes bribes to eliminate ads. (Er contributions)
So it would be even more rude to say some words to a colleague's device before they go into a presentation.
Removing cookies should help. Not sure you can turn off the microphone.
I also believe this site takes bribes to eliminate ads. (Er contributions)
Jakob, thanks for posting this. Any chance you have a link to the study/thesis?
Unfortunately there is only a german pdf available (supplied by the author in 2006) but no online version. Tell me a mail adress and I'll send you the pdf, but extracting the text isn't straight forward due to an akward pdf problem. I'll try to get the original thesis from the library and with author's permission could try to scan it again without he quirks.
In my current pdf supplemental material like pics and maybe the analysis is missing, so that could be worth to get as well.
IMO the author tried to examine way to much hypothesis (like relations to age, experience, gender, listening position) but his main hypothesises were
1.) the physically better (and more expensive) interconnect will be preferred
2.) in any case, the listeners will detect a difference between the two interconnects
He concluded from the results, that 1.) was falsified and 2.) was validated
but, as said, no statistical analysis detailed.
As the results and conditions are described, I thought it could be interesting to report it, and to do some analysis.
I'm having a hard time parsing the test results (limitations of posting to a forum, no slight to you!) and don't want to get it wrong. 1-6 in each test set is the respective track and the numbers are the forced choice selection?
Correct; 6 different music samples (same in set "A" and set "B") and listeners had to answer for each sample.
If so, then a binomial distribution isn't the right statistics and essentially impossible to call it forced choice either.
According to the author, the addition of the tie answer was the based on several pretests. Originally he wanted to do 2-AFC paired comparison, but those listeners who didn't perceive a difference complained about being forced to answer as if they had.
So he added the "no difference" (tie answer).
I'm not sure what statistical test is appropriate.
As the paired comparison method is one of the most often used (if not the most often) it was always of interest if the tie answers should be omitted or included (and which way to analyze in each case).
Testing with a binomial in the 2-AFC for 0.5 is quite straight forward, testing for 0.33 with a trinomial in the 2-AC (means paired comparison with the tie answer) is less so.
Various proposals exist, like sign tests, or (after Odesky published results in 1967) to use a binomial test even in the 2-AC comparison by special treatment of the tie answer proportion.
Odesky found that if pressed most people who answered with "no difference/preference" finally answered like the majority and so proposed to assign the tie answers accordingly to the two other categories.
Another method would assign the tie answers equally to the other categories and another one is to exclude the tie answers from the analysis.
Obviously, it lowers the statistical power and the first two proposals (assignment of the tie answer to the other categories) are kind of cheating, which might seem reasonable due to Odesky's work, but different people might behave very different from the humans Odesky was working with.
Therefore, as said before, a modern analysis based on findings from Ennis and Ennis in 1980 and more refined by Christensen, Brockerhoff and Ennis in 2012/2013 uses the socalled identicality norm (i.e. the result from the negative control or placebo pair) as reference for the results in case that no difference exists.
And to calculate the variation of the other trial results (where a potential difference might be existent) in relation to this reference result.
Adding all the trials across the song selections seems to be pretty balanced. Each track is interesting, and you'd have to do something like an intraclass correlation to see how truly significant the per-song tests were versus the ensemble.
Can be interesting as an additional analysis.
From the author's description it follows that set "B" was intended to be an additional control, but due to the additional variables (tweaked cds in one of the players) it can't be used as such.
At a first glance it is just an additional but smaller sample, but if a difference was detected (concluded from the analysis of the results) we can't decide if it was due to the different interconnects or due to the cd-players used (same model and checked by the manufacturer who participated in the experiment).
That’s exactly what is meant with personalised advertising.Can someone explain this to me. Seriously.
Every time I go to the crapper and sit there reading my iPad, on DiyAudio, I get get banner adverts for
Automatic bidets
‘Hygienic’ toilet brushes
Bathroom and shower refits
I’ve had one or two on another site I frequent for pile medication
What the hell is this? Is nothing private anymore?
😀
Hans
...as said before, a modern analysis based on findings from Ennis and Ennis in 1980 and more refined by Christensen, Brockerhoff and Ennis in 2012/2013 uses the socalled identicality norm (i.e. the result from the negative control or placebo pair) as reference for the results in case that no difference exists...
...we can't decide if it was due to the different interconnects or due to the cd-players used (same model and checked by the manufacturer who participated in the experiment).
Some problems as in the above could probably be reduced if an expert listener could validate the CD decks as identical or far more identical than the interconnects, and that the interconnects to be tested are in fact different under the environmental conditions at the testing time and location. If an expert listener can't be sure either they are not expert enough, or other equipment to be used in the experiment (e.g. amplifiers, speakers, etc.) perhaps should be reconsidered. Otherwise, hard to understand why such a test would be needed in the first place, unless perhaps it was to be used to evaluate expert listener perception only.
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Can someone explain this to me. Seriously.
Every time I go to the crapper and sit there reading my iPad, on DiyAudio, I get get banner adverts for
Automatic bidets
‘Hygienic’ toilet brushes
Bathroom and shower refits
I’ve had one or two on another site I frequent for pile medication
What the hell is this? Is nothing private anymore?
Do you have black tape over your camera? 😱
Got Bass? 😉 YouTube
Man I love Jaco, and he really shines in the Joni Mitchell Shadows and Light concert which is a great way to spend an hour with a glass or two of wine...also featuring Pat Methany and Lyle Mays!
One of my favorite bass players because he does more than just riff is Jeff Berlin. Here he is on Allan Holdsworth's Water On The Brain Part II
Oh, I should mention I'm a failed bass player, still have my Yamaha BB200...with dust on it...
Howie
I've seen funnier things in the past in the old thread. It only appeared once or twice, indicating that maybe someone hacked the system, but at the time I thought it was at least ironic with all the high moral standarts, spell checking and other stuff here. Proof is below 😀Can someone explain this to me. Seriously.
Every time I go to the crapper and sit there reading my iPad, on DiyAudio, I get get banner adverts for
Automatic bidets
‘Hygienic’ toilet brushes
Bathroom and shower refits
I’ve had one or two on another site I frequent for pile medication
What the hell is this? Is nothing private anymore?
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False narrative. There would have to be confirmed case of audible difference between those devices but there isn't.Some problems as in the above could probably be reduced if an expert listener could validate the CD decks as identical or far more identical than the interconnects, and that the interconnects to be tested are in fact different under the environmental conditions at the testing time and location. If an expert listener can't be sure either they are not expert enough, or other equipment to be used in the experiment (e.g. amplifiers, speakers, etc.) perhaps should be reconsidered. Otherwise, hard to understand why such a test would be needed in the first place, unless perhaps it was to be used to evaluate expert listener perception only.
Unfortunately there is only a german pdf available (supplied by the author in 2006) but no online version. Tell me a mail adress and I'll send you the pdf, but extracting the text isn't straight forward due to an akward pdf problem. I'll try to get the original thesis from the library and with author's permission could try to scan it again without he quirks.
In my current pdf supplemental material like pics and maybe the analysis is missing, so that could be worth to get as well.
Not ignoring everything else you wrote, but that requires a lot more thinking. 🙂
Please don't worry about it on my account -- if it were easy, I'd say, "yes, please" but I don't want to put you through a substantial amount of work for what remains an intellectual interest on my side. I do appreciate the offer, nonetheless.
Some problems as in the above could probably be reduced if an expert listener could validate the CD decks as identical or far more identical than the interconnects, and that the interconnects to be tested are in fact different under the environmental conditions at the testing time and location. If an expert listener can't be sure either they are not expert enough, or other equipment to be used in the experiment (e.g. amplifiers, speakers, etc.) perhaps should be reconsidered. Otherwise, hard to understand why such a test would be needed in the first place, unless perhaps it was to be used to evaluate expert listener perception only.
Occasionally I'll try to ask the author to find out what his reasoning was.
Right from the beginning it seemed to me that he used the german high end fair for this attempt to get a bigger sample size. He did not aim for expert listeners but for audiophiles attending such a fair. The test was featured in one of the german special interest mags (Stereo) one or two months before the fair and listeners got the chance to win some small gifts in a lottery for the participants.
He designed the set "B" to rule the cd players out as source for any detected difference, but as he unfortunately introduced an additional variable (tweaked CD in one player) that did not work.
Taking into account the usual reasoning in the typical discussion about potentially perceptable differences, I'd say it doesn't matter in this case. 🙂
False narrative. There would have to be confirmed case of audible difference between those devices but there isn't.
Looks to be clutching at strawmen.😉
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