I worry about Dennis Muilenburg. He seems to be making all the wrong moves. Not taking adequate prevention after Lion Air. Being the last to ground the planes recently and only after the President ordered it. Promising a software update by April when the investigation has only just started; the worst thing you can do is rush a fix to dodgy software. I would have the whole system independently picked through, line by line, by engineers and programmers who have no connection to Boeing.
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Unless they freely provide a open document, stating in detail what went wrong, the measures incorporated to prevent it, and a thoroughly varied test routine repeated a large number of times. And making sure the new adaptions do not cause any other issues. It will be a long time before they regain some trust.
Openly admitting flaws and taking proper action to correct them, seems to me a better move than sweeping dog turds under the rug.
Openly admitting flaws and taking proper action to correct them, seems to me a better move than sweeping dog turds under the rug.
Have you watched the video abraxalito linked to?
I know it is a few years old and about the 787 but it mentions some very worrying facets regarding changes of practices and attitudes within Boeing and the FAA handed most of the aspects of flight accreditation simply over to Boeing itself.
Meanwhile initial striking similarities between the Lion Air and Ethiopian crashes are now official after they got the data from the flight recorders.
I know it is a few years old and about the 787 but it mentions some very worrying facets regarding changes of practices and attitudes within Boeing and the FAA handed most of the aspects of flight accreditation simply over to Boeing itself.
Meanwhile initial striking similarities between the Lion Air and Ethiopian crashes are now official after they got the data from the flight recorders.
I don't want to get involved in the speculation, but if I can just state my admiration for the investigation team (and all crash investigation teams). The eyes of the world are on them, people speculating everywhere, enormous political pressures, but they have to find the truth and only the truth will do. I wouldn't be able to handle it even if I did have a suitable specialisation.
I have not had the time to watch it all, but did watch a little bit, going to see the whole thing later today. I did watch the shorter Al Jazeera clip on the 737 Max 8 though, released 13.03.2019
The one about the 787's seem to show what most of the world is afraid of, the tight and sloppy connection between a manufacturer willing to take shortcuts, and a government organ that fails to establish the neutrality it should have.
Probably not the best picture to have in your head when you're shopping for reliable aircraft, and especially so when it seems to be a repeating pattern.
"Fool me once..."
I hope they get their act together, but first they have to stop screwing themselves over.
Hi,
I like airplanes, I still look at them with kid's awe and amazement.
Just out of curiosity, I was reading about those two sad tragedies.
But then I remembered a quote I read somewhere (don't know by whom) "Hardware eventually fails. Software eventually works". And I would say that a wrong combination of the two, make for a disaster.
Hardware: All sensors fail, sometimes for not-so-obvious reasons. It can be dust, insects, or...a manufacture glitch.
Software: Developers know that they have to test all possible scenarios in test environments before going live. Yet, in practice it happens that a set of real-life circumstances created a scenario that has not been acoounted for
But the fundametal reason why both issues arise (hardware and software) is : Saving. Either money or time. Or both. Rush to deliver the new product, as cheap as possible, as fast as possible, becuse if you don't, your competitor will. How many times you have seen an engineer complain to the management that something is not done right, but then they are told that we live in a competitive world, where everything comes down to cost vs. performace.
And then...
I like airplanes, I still look at them with kid's awe and amazement.
Just out of curiosity, I was reading about those two sad tragedies.
But then I remembered a quote I read somewhere (don't know by whom) "Hardware eventually fails. Software eventually works". And I would say that a wrong combination of the two, make for a disaster.
Hardware: All sensors fail, sometimes for not-so-obvious reasons. It can be dust, insects, or...a manufacture glitch.
Software: Developers know that they have to test all possible scenarios in test environments before going live. Yet, in practice it happens that a set of real-life circumstances created a scenario that has not been acoounted for
But the fundametal reason why both issues arise (hardware and software) is : Saving. Either money or time. Or both. Rush to deliver the new product, as cheap as possible, as fast as possible, becuse if you don't, your competitor will. How many times you have seen an engineer complain to the management that something is not done right, but then they are told that we live in a competitive world, where everything comes down to cost vs. performace.
And then...
In all honesty, I was referring to those well versed in the issues like 6L6, avtech and others. It was not a sarcastic comment.
Apologies. I did find it humorous though. Perhaps my chosen way of expression was a bit much, it was intended as a slightly overly phrased dry humour response.
I will openly brag about my lack of knowledge given half a chance though.
And I am always ready for some sarcasm. But perhaps this is not the best thread for it.
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