Global Warming/Climate Change hoax

[Evenharmonics]

68 "The science isn't settled" That human CO2 is causing global warming is known with high certainty & confirmed by observations.
Is the science settled?

About that site, skeptical science, link.

 

[Evenharmonics]

About that 97%, link.

 

[Evenharmonics]

Well, ad hominem is a smart tactic, as we know that at least one contributor, Luke, falls for it.

But for the life of me, I can't see the "smoking gun" you seem to be pointing out in John Cook's bio. And your link is to the TEAM, which is impressive.

You've been linking that site because their contents fit your preconception, right?

 

[leadbelly]

@leadbelly: I am not so sure about the water-tightness of the contents of that list. 78 downplays methane on the grounds that it is a relatively small portion of existing gases in the atmosphere but in 34 it argues about the addition of CO2. However, according to the EPA methane is a much larger contributor to global warming potential by human-caused emissions than CO2. There is supposed to be a lot of CO2 in the air...or the ecosystem wouldn't work!

Not sure if you noticed the "Intermediate" tab?
Is the science settled?

About 40% of human CO2 emissions are being absorbed, mostly by vegetation and the oceans. The rest remains in the atmosphere. As a consequence, atmospheric CO2 is at its highest level in 15 to 20 million years (Tripati 2009). A natural change of 100ppm normally takes 5,000 to 20.000 years. The recent increase of 100ppm has taken just 120 years.

Additional confirmation that rising CO2 levels are due to human activity comes from examining the ratio of carbon isotopes (eg ? carbon atoms with differing numbers of neutrons) found in the atmosphere. Carbon 12 has 6 neutrons, carbon 13 has 7 neutrons. Plants have a lower C13/C12 ratio than in the atmosphere. If rising atmospheric CO2 comes from fossil fuels, the C13/C12 should be falling. Indeed this is what is occurring (Ghosh 2003). The C13/C12 ratio correlates with the trend in global emissions.

 

[leadbelly]

OK, that's it for me. I am losing energy and I really have to work on my car today. Thanks for the Friends of Science link. That's right here in Calgary, which I already said was Canada's Houston. I least I leave with a smile now.

 

[bwaslo]

I am amazed that people think that climate scientists go into the field because they want to make a lot of money. Rather than go into something public-welfare oriented like, say, the petroleum industry.

How many billionaire or millionaire climate scientists are you aware of, honestly? Is that what materialistically inclined young people are drawn to do nowadays or in the past century -- to study climate science??!?

How much public funding goes into climate science compared to (in the US at least) into oil company government subsidies?

 

[KaffiMann]

If you lived in the USA, you wouldn't be so sure that it's fiction.

Hah! Yes, but what I wrote was that it's fiction because: we have bigger TV's than that now, and also trash burn facilities.
Then I went on about how people do not seem capable of picking up their own trash... Sort of indirectly suggesting that no, it does not help towards making the real world better than that wonderful movie depiction (Idiocracy).
It really is quite depressing.

 

[Evenharmonics]

OK, that's it for me. I am losing energy and I really have to work on my car today.

Car? You mean the air polluting metal box?

 

[scottjoplin]

It's ok, it's powered by a Honda lawnmower engine

 

[Cal Weldon]

I am returning after taking some time off and I see we are moving toward, and into, some rule breaking areas. I will be removing the political and religious posts and those with direct reference to either subject, so if yours contain that, then copy and re-paste minus the offences after I have removed them.

 

[cbdb]

Let's see. The world is experiencing " once n a 100 year storms " twice a year but the weather isn't changing. How's that work?

 

[Evenharmonics]

Let's see. The world is experiencing " once n a 100 year storms " twice a year but the weather isn't changing. How's that work?

Who said weather isn't changing?

 

[Brinkman]

I happened to be in Évora, Portugal to experience the largest hurricane Portugal has seen in over 150 years. Had our flight to Barcelona get cancelled on account of the hurricane as well.

Nothing else to add other than give a +1 to bwaslo’s post above

 

[Evenharmonics]

I am amazed that people think that climate scientists go into the field because they want to make a lot of money.

You can ask them and find out why they go into the field that they do. Also, you can ask people why they want money, whatever the amount may be.

How many billionaire or millionaire climate scientists are you aware of, honestly? Is that what materialistically inclined young people are drawn to do nowadays or in the past century -- to study climate science??!?

How much public funding goes into climate science compared to (in the US at least) into oil company government subsidies?

Let us know if / when you find out. Thanks.

 

[Evenharmonics]

I happened to be in Évora, Portugal to experience the largest hurricane Portugal has seen in over 150 years. Had our flight to Barcelona get cancelled on account of the hurricane as well.

Nothing else to add other than give a +1 to bwaslo’s post above

Perhaps a new thread about Évora, Portugal Weather may be interesting.

 

[nigelwright7557]

Sat in the UK now at 2 degrees C some global warming would be very nice thank you.

I think it was Vladimir Putin said Russia needed some global warming !

 

[dtaylo3]

Class A amplifiers release too much heat into the atmosphere. Need to go Class D. A joke. The never ending debate, and no one yields, so better to yap DIY.

 

[nigelwright7557]

LED mains lamps must have made a difference to consumption.
There must have been billions made.
Even cars are using a lot of LED's now.

 

[TheGimp]

At least LED bulbs got rid of the mercury in CFLs.

 

[Brinkman]

Perhaps a new thread about Évora, Portugal Weather may be interesting.

No, way too many threads about that already. Here is fine