Visaton VIB 2000GF
Sagi
this could be another candidate.
VIB 2000 GF
This one has a slight bumping in 50-100Hz- meets your 70's-80's music. A bit less SPL.
A friend of mine asked:"could it play bass?"- whatever his opinion is- he has
bought it directly.
My personaly tests i have done with M.Dieckmann KT88SE- and i was very
surprised about the deep low end, if presented.
I have modified the tweeter to Seas No Ferro 900.
The Visaton GF200 i have seen a price ~ 90 €uro somewhere.
Possible more interesting answers here by more experienced members.
Sagi
this could be another candidate.
VIB 2000 GF
This one has a slight bumping in 50-100Hz- meets your 70's-80's music. A bit less SPL.
A friend of mine asked:"could it play bass?"- whatever his opinion is- he has
bought it directly.
My personaly tests i have done with M.Dieckmann KT88SE- and i was very
surprised about the deep low end, if presented.
I have modified the tweeter to Seas No Ferro 900.
The Visaton GF200 i have seen a price ~ 90 €uro somewhere.
Possible more interesting answers here by more experienced members.
This is by far the best value for money kit I am aware of and I suggest OP to get one while it's still available. Only one thing that it lacks, for the purpose of driving it with a SE tube amp, is a couple of conjugate impedance correction filters that can be very easily designed once you have its impedance recorded, with XO in place. I am volunteering to make one if the occasion arises.
I would be very careful choosing a kits that are advertised online. A lot of these are tuned so flat in freq. response that will sound too bright and too much unneeded details. Details for detail sake is not a good thing. If you cannot make sense out of them then probably not good. I am not saying all of them are but it seems like a lot of them are. I've read a well known designer boasting his speakers have a lot of details that you can hear the singer licking his/her lips. Now why would I want to hear the singer licking her lips.
I think it's a lot harder to tune your speakers to reveal not details but the inner truth and beauty of music. It takes experiences and understand of music to do this. I look at some of the designs from like Madisound and Parts Express and the freq. response looks a little too flat for my taste. Obviously freq. response is not everything but it could tell a lot. I suspect a lot of these speakers are designed to get a maximal flat freq. response without real understand the fundamental of music. Unfortunately it's a business to make money and not necessarily making good music.
I think it's a lot harder to tune your speakers to reveal not details but the inner truth and beauty of music. It takes experiences and understand of music to do this. I look at some of the designs from like Madisound and Parts Express and the freq. response looks a little too flat for my taste. Obviously freq. response is not everything but it could tell a lot. I suspect a lot of these speakers are designed to get a maximal flat freq. response without real understand the fundamental of music. Unfortunately it's a business to make money and not necessarily making good music.
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+1. It's a mistake to skimp on the spending for your drive units, they are not perishables and will last many years, I just don't get it
After Andy's post and due the fact that the kits seems to me too much 100% optimized to flat, it reduces the fun to play with the electronics and/or the enclosure. So maybe I am wrong here but I agree 1. focus on good drivers 2. Design XO based on relatively short research and purchase additional components to play with the sound. 3. Design an enclosure and get the freedom to change it.
I will probably not get the best sound out the speakers but hey, at least I will learn something and not copy-paste
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I will probably not get the best sound out the speakers but hey, at least I will learn something and not copy-paste
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In so many words we have an audiophile "ruling" that classix speakers are not truly high end loudspeakers because of some issues (aka garbage) in the 1-2 kHz range, according to our trustworthy Zaph measurements, but there is a solution to that, and not an expensive one with the potential of the speakers becoming a real gem by adding a 2" Dayton Audio dome midrange unit that would be perfectly suited.
Luke, follow your instincts. The dark force is all around you.
By the way, was it true that the dude who played Luke was into some porno movie?
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You know people have evolved and advanced so far that one has to take offense at stuffs said on the internet. The political correctness is so ... well the word is hy·poc·ri·sy. But I understand. Certain standard has to be reinforced. Unfortunately it's so easy to enforce it on the internet vs. in real life. Like I said before, so much distaste. Make me want to vomit.
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A youtube or any other trecording is convolved with too many other variables to be able to really judge what the original DUT sounds like.
dave
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