Douglas Blake i did what you said to put the old relay back in and it worked im shock because when i got it it had no sound so im guess the solders were bad
Very good ... What I would suggest is that you take and retouch all the solder on that relay board. Heat, vibration, age, etc. all add up to the occasional joint that goes bad.
The best technique is to get your iron a tiny bit extra warm, touch each point for about 3 seconds (or until the solder melts) then using fine solder add just a tiny bit of fresh solder... then move to the next one. Don't be surprised if some of the solder joints boil when you heat them...that's a common problem with mechanically soldered boards.
While you've got it apart, you should clean all the switches and controls. Just take an eyedropper and some rubbing alcohol, put a couple of drops into the switch or pot and operate it a few times back and forth, end to end. That will get rid of accumulated dust, nicotine and what have you.
From there, you should be good to go!
i said i need to learn much as i can to fix my own stuff no vinge repair shops by me uless i driver 2hr away or more god i hate PA
Of course, and your interest is commendable. That's why I have the All About Circuits link in my signature. Anyone starting out needs to know more than swapping parts or good soldering... to successfully diagnose a problem you also need to know how each little bit in a circuit works. Electronics is about half theory and half practice, one is no good without the other.
Thanks for the good news.