X5 enough drive for B&W 802D's ?

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misterdoggy said:
Biamped speakers are the way to go, but they would ned to be the same amp or I would run in to Gain problems. Do YOU think that a 250.5 would find more Bass at lower decibels?
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I don't know the Commercial Pass product, so I can't be specific on that, but bi-amping the B&Ws certainly makes a big difference to me. You can try it without buying a new amp by using a couple of spare channels from your 5 way to drive the bass separately to see if you think it helps.

As for matching sensitivity, try the experiment first, that issue can always be solved later if you like the end result.
 
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You can use a commercial Y splitter cable or adapter, or you can make one yourself with some phono plugs and cable.
 

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I will have to think about this one as I've got a lot invested in cabling with Nordost Heimdall XLR's and to stay in the same realm I would need to do splitters with the same quality.

However this might be an interesting solution should I go with the 250.5 for the FL + FR I would have 2 channels free on the X5 Amp and could bi-amp my center channel which is an htm2d for more precision with voices and center sounds.
 
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The difference in biamping should be much greater than any cable differences, certainly just for testing purposes you could knock up something simple.

However, (flame suit on), I have always found that when running properly balanced, exotic cable really doesn't make a difference...:hot:
 
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pinkmouse said:
The difference in biamping should be much greater than any cable differences, certainly just for testing purposes you could knock up something simple.

However, (flame suit on), I have always found that when running properly balanced, exotic cable really doesn't make a difference...:hot:
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You know, I've come full circle on this too. I spent a fortune on cables, transparent reference RR power cords, Hemdall Nordost balanced interconnects, same quality for Digital and the rest and I can't say I've ever heard a difference.

I buy good quality all the same because its offered.

Now people will say, your equipment isn't good enough to "perceive" the difference, but they cannot say that, as I tried with krell fpb's and Mark Levinson Mono blocs with all the equipment parallel in quality source Ayre D1XE ($10000 CDDVD player) and no great earth shaking news to report.

I think there probably would be if I one used common radio shack "lamp cord" up against the top quality cable out there, but I haven't seen it yet (flamesuit is on too)


:smash:
 
#31
Well, looking at the picture I can see your problem. You have too much highend kit between the speakers. See, what you need to do is send it to me. I can dispose of it properly, leaving you with a much better space for the music to create the illusion of...etc.

/bs off

I would think if you asked nordost and was willing to pay they could make you a splitter. I've never looked since that cabling is way out of my league but it does seem possible. Worth a phone call anyway. Not sure if that particular wire is available by the ft but you could make some too.
 
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nordost

imjatse,

I had Nordost Spm reference for a while. Imo, it is not a good match for focal electra and utopia range since nordost is fast and bright sounding cable. However, it was a fine match for Kef speakers (reference series) I had in 2004. Nordost may sound perfect with dark sounding gear; can make them alive.
Today I have only Nordost Power cables: shiva and vishnu.
The reason for too much kits between speakers is I had to protect my gear against my 2 years old son. I don't have a dedicated listening room so I built my own rack kit from MDF. Before I had dedicated stands (tempered glass) but all were protectless against intruders:xeye:
 
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B&W 802 D are very fine speakers and I suppose (never really tried it) that Pass X5 will play well with them. But in general, B&W series 8 are rather current hungry speakers, meaning they need quite powerfull amps to play at its best. Therefore, the idea to put X250.5 into the system for the front channels is not a bad idea at all. If it is possible, surely the best way would be to borrow one unit and try it at home. Than everything should be clear ...

regards
Dejan
 
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dejanm said:
B&W 802 D are very fine speakers and I suppose (never really tried it) that Pass X5 will play well with them. But in general, B&W series 8 are rather current hungry speakers, meaning they need quite powerfull amps to play at its best. Therefore, the idea to put X250.5 into the system for the front channels is not a bad idea at all. If it is possible, surely the best way would be to borrow one unit and try it at home. Than everything should be clear ...

regards
Dejan
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That's a big baby to send...... I would like to try one though. So far the X5 is driving them OK. I need to find a DAC for my Ayre D1xe. I tried an electocompaniet ecd1 but was not impressed at all. I once used a Goldmund digin and it was a wonderful little dac that really performed. Im hoping to find more bass there. If not I will have to turn to the bigger guns. Problem is finding a 250.5 at a good price used in 230V.
 
#39
prices

the prices for Pass in Germany and Austria are insane .... Somewhere about twice as much as in US ...
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I believe. I think the retail price for x250.5 must be 8000-8500 Euros.....a good preamplifier 8000 more...a good speaker lets say another 12000....cables 3000....power conditioning 2000....uppss...we forgot the source..DCS p8i 10000-12000?
my math is not good but cumulative it appears 40.000 Euros?
No thanks. I take porsche Cayman not the Hi-end:angel:
 
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Re: prices

mert said:

I believe. I think the retail price for x250.5 must be 8000-8500 Euros.....a good preamplifier 8000 more...a good speaker lets say another 12000....cables 3000....power conditioning 2000....uppss...we forgot the source..DCS p8i 10000-12000?
my math is not good but cumulative it appears 40.000 Euros?
No thanks. I take porsche Cayman not the Hi-end:angel:
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Hey Mert,

Take the Porsche and the Hifi 🙂
 
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