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his biography is very interesting esp the early days Capt Crunch et al
and from 'the Garage days' to stealing bits of Lisa for his teams work.
he was a wheeler dealer type http://www.wired.com/2012/02/steve-jobs-fbi-file/

One person indicated that although Jobs was dishonest, he did not think that honesty and integrity were required qualities for a high-level political position and therefore recommended Jobs “for a position of trust and confidence with the Government.”
One former colleague indicated that although Jobs was “not an engineer in the real sense, he understands base technology and technical jargon to the extent that he is an innovative force within the technical community, in terms of the contributions he has made.”
 
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One former colleague indicated that although Jobs was “not an engineer in the real sense, he understands base technology and technical jargon to the extent that he is an innovative force within the technical community, in terms of the contributions he has made.

Its quite common for people to buy in technology.
Didnt Gates buy in the software for the basis of MSDOS ?
I think he bought in QDOS as a basis for MSDOS.

Windows has been going since the 1990's, you might have though they would have got it right by now.
A trend in software is just to write it and send it out without any depth of testing and let the customer give feedback on bugs.

By the time one OS is debugged we are on to the next new partly debugged OS. With Windows 10 I read that this could be the last version of Windows with just updates instead of a new OS.
 
doesn't new hardware push software development.
Its kinda weird CPU performance hasn't been growing like they used to, so we've reached some point of equilibrium
and we need more software for better battery life. everybodys waiting for the next big thing (need a breakthrough)
for a software company to say "this is it folks' somehow I doubt it for the shareholders.
 
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It will fit in the size wise limits at the gate no problem . On the real airlines not the second tier ones not so much . How the shop coming up and running

It will be a hardwood case with a handle. Inside are some funny looking electronic connectors, a computer keyboard, a mouse, a music keyboard, and a futuristic looking box with LED's and rotary encoders (24/96 audio interface), and a 20 inch computer monitor. The keyboard and mouse are wireless, therefore appear to be unconnected.

The Xray screen will reveal several circuit boards, a large slab of metal (CPU heat sink, no fan) and 24 cylinders, each about an inch in diameter and two inches long, and dozens of wires and ribbon cables running inside.

If you were the typical paranoid air traffic safety agent, what would you do when you saw THAT?????

The cylinders are LiFePo4 cells which are FAR safer that the LiION or LIPO cells often used in laptops and cell phones. I built the prototype hardware with LIPO cells because of the excellent power to weight ratio, but after having a friend nearly lose his house due to a LIPO fire from the exact same brand of batteries, I have switched to LiFePo4. They are heavier but do not have a self destructive chemistry if the cells are accidentally fully discharged.

New lab build out is going much slower than planned. Motorola has dropped retiree health care, cutting my finances in half, and my daughter and her family (4 kids) have decided to come live with us.

I'm currently building workbenches from dumpster materials. Slow, but they are coming out nice for about $50 in 2 X 4's each. I haven't even unpacked any of my test equipment yet.

I did build up 8 PC's from carcasses and spare parts. Two were given away, and the other 6 will be for the lab. Some are simple machines for single tasks, like an audio analyzer (FFT box). None even have video cards.

The "Get Windows 10" icon has appeared on ALL 8 of those PC's and all of them are running W7. All were scratch built with internet sourced drivers. Two of them started out as Vista machines (from the SAME Vista CD) that were upgraded to W7 with one of those 3 pack upgrade boxes that were sold right after W7 was introduced. I know that I used up 2 of those licenses initially, but never used the third because "Vista Ultimate can only be upgraded to W7 Ultimate" which had not been released yet at the time. I gave the Vista Ultimate machine to a friend when I left Florida.

The prototype hardware for my ultimate laptop has been sitting on a table running W8.1 for about a week. It does NOT have the Get W10 icon. The OS was originally W8 from a virgin install disk. It is activated and upgraded to W8.1. The hardware meets all W10 requirements. I will also try W10 on it (via an install disk if needed), and then decide whether to keep W10, or swap out the SSD and install W7. I don't like W8.

If all goes well there could be some tubes glowing in a few months. I'm no longer bound by a Motorola employment agreement, so there will be an RF lab and some radio designs in the future....no tubes in them though.
 
doesn't new hardware push software development.
Its kinda weird CPU performance hasn't been growing like they used to, so we've reached some point of equilibrium
and we need more software for better battery life. everybodys waiting for the next big thing (need a breakthrough)
for a software company to say "this is it folks' somehow I doubt it for the shareholders.

I have been thinking about this for a while, being so use to major developments in hardware over the last 30 years working on PC's. The hardware is getting faster, not in the leaps and bounds of the 386/486 era, we are getting better at getting the signals round PCBs... but domestic software is getting more and more bloated so in effect the hardware improvements just keep the ever more graphic intensive interfaces going.
When you look at a similar powered embedded PC doing control etc. without the software overhead of windows the computing power available is impressive and allows for some sophisticated kit. We run a Sun SPARCstation legacy machine for Visula PCB software and its almost as fast graphics wise as our modern PCs, and the software runs like a dream...
Over the last 30+ years the operating systems have gone from requiring some knowledge in computers (and used mainly by engineers) to now an integral part of peoples lives (! the matrix) where it must work and provide an easy to use ergonomic interface (that is what's eating up the power, with the ever increasing amounts of data being shuttled around, music video photos).
 
I dowloaded 10 on a spare laptop. uns fine.

Now for the serious stuff. Why should we take this free offer? You can bet your sweet *ss that sometime along the line (after one year?) they will start to extract money from you for the privilege to use W10.

Is it worth that? What's wrong with W7, W8? Why not continue to use W7, W8 for the next 5 years and save a bundle?

Jan
 
I dowloaded 10 on a spare laptop. uns fine.

Now for the serious stuff. Why should we take this free offer? You can bet your sweet *ss that sometime along the line (after one year?) they will start to extract money from you for the privilege to use W10.

Is it worth that? What's wrong with W7, W8? Why not continue to use W7, W8 for the next 5 years and save a bundle?

Jan

Hi Jan
They have been extracting information which is equivalent to money for a very long time
see post #51

And now in the news if it was not obvious enough
Windows 10: how much of my personal information can Microsoft access? - Telegraph

And here are the questions asked https://i.imgur.com/iHge6RJ.jpg

Better to download Mint Main Page - Linux Mint or one of the many
Linux distributions and rid yourself of the many problems that exist
with this spyware/ software forever. I did so in 2003 and never looked back.
Time to break the two way mirror I think

Cheers / Chris
 
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Hi Chris, I agree, Linux has changed, its quite usable now, even nice. I setup a PC with Deepin, which was a little buggy, but wow, made Win8 ui look clumsy. This stuff is getting good, it can get a bit geeky when you want to load flash or Java, but my 8yo daughter liked it and she was a win7 user.
BTW, one of us has the wrong flag, I think its you but I sometimes get confused about the number of stars😀
 
It will be a hardwood case with a handle. Inside are some funny looking electronic connectors, a computer keyboard, a mouse, a music keyboard, and a futuristic looking box with LED's and rotary encoders (24/96 audio interface), and a 20 inch computer monitor. The keyboard and mouse are wireless, therefore appear to be unconnected.

The Xray screen will reveal several circuit boards, a large slab of metal (CPU heat sink, no fan) and 24 cylinders, each about an inch in diameter and two inches long, and dozens of wires and ribbon cables running inside.

If you were the typical paranoid air traffic safety agent, what would you do when you saw THAT?????

The cylinders are LiFePo4 cells which are FAR safer that the LiION or LIPO cells often used in laptops and cell phones. I built the prototype hardware with LIPO cells because of the excellent power to weight ratio, but after having a friend nearly lose his house due to a LIPO fire from the exact same brand of batteries, I have switched to LiFePo4. They are heavier but do not have a self destructive chemistry if the cells are accidentally fully discharged.

New lab build out is going much slower than planned. Motorola has dropped retiree health care, cutting my finances in half, and my daughter and her family (4 kids) have decided to come live with us.

I'm currently building workbenches from dumpster materials. Slow, but they are coming out nice for about $50 in 2 X 4's each. I haven't even unpacked any of my test equipment yet.

I did build up 8 PC's from carcasses and spare parts. Two were given away, and the other 6 will be for the lab. Some are simple machines for single tasks, like an audio analyzer (FFT box). None even have video cards.

The "Get Windows 10" icon has appeared on ALL 8 of those PC's and all of them are running W7. All were scratch built with internet sourced drivers. Two of them started out as Vista machines (from the SAME Vista CD) that were upgraded to W7 with one of those 3 pack upgrade boxes that were sold right after W7 was introduced. I know that I used up 2 of those licenses initially, but never used the third because "Vista Ultimate can only be upgraded to W7 Ultimate" which had not been released yet at the time. I gave the Vista Ultimate machine to a friend when I left Florida.

The prototype hardware for my ultimate laptop has been sitting on a table running W8.1 for about a week. It does NOT have the Get W10 icon. The OS was originally W8 from a virgin install disk. It is activated and upgraded to W8.1. The hardware meets all W10 requirements. I will also try W10 on it (via an install disk if needed), and then decide whether to keep W10, or swap out the SSD and install W7. I don't like W8.

If all goes well there could be some tubes glowing in a few months. I'm no longer bound by a Motorola employment agreement, so there will be an RF lab and some radio designs in the future....no tubes in them though.
Tsa just tell them it a Steam punk lab top and they will ask you to turn it on . Well at least in ATL it will be ok in WV who knows. Should have some tubes on the backround when that comes up .
 
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