I think the link is missing.here is some speakers using 2 volt b2500.4 and i think tweeters are fountek neo pro5i
I think the link is missing.
yes i forgot to put it in i editid it but here it is again Voltaire IV | Luxury Speakers | Robson Acoustics
Is the performance of these speaker good, bad or indifferent? Can we tell from the physical parameters of the drivers and cabinet or would we need to listen them? What about value for money?yes i forgot to put it in i editid it but here it is again Voltaire IV | Luxury Speakers | Robson Acoustics
Although somewhat boring what tends to determine sound quality is using correctly sized drivers comfortably within their operating range. Comfortably within their operating range tends to mean good standard range drivers work just as well expensive exotic ones. Expensive drivers tend to work better when pushing the limits. In terms of sound quality there isn't much wrong with your current speakers except you would like deeper bass without using a subwoofer. The obvious solution is 8" woofers rather than 6.5" woofers which you have not responded to.
Now you can exchange sound quality for something else such as a 2 way that works into the mid 20s. This looks like a fun challenge but the result is going to be lower performance and probably for a higher cost. If this is what you want to do then make the constraint explicit because maximising performance tends to get assumed.
It also might be useful to know why you are looking at ribbons. Ribbons cannot cross low and so are not usually appropriate for 2 way designs.
Is the performance of these speaker good, bad or indifferent? Can we tell from the physical parameters of the drivers and cabinet or would we need to listen them? What about value for money?
Although somewhat boring what tends to determine sound quality is using correctly sized drivers comfortably within their operating range. Comfortably within their operating range tends to mean good standard range drivers work just as well expensive exotic ones. Expensive drivers tend to work better when pushing the limits. In terms of sound quality there isn't much wrong with your current speakers except you would like deeper bass without using a subwoofer. The obvious solution is 8" woofers rather than 6.5" woofers which you have not responded to.Now you can exchange sound quality for something else such as a 2 way that works into the mid 20s. This looks like a fun challenge but the result is going to be lower performance and probably for a higher cost. If this is what you want to do then make the constraint explicit because maximising performance tends to get assumed.
It also might be useful to know why you are looking at ribbons. Ribbons cannot cross low and so are not usually appropriate for 2 way designs.
yes twin 8" woofers probably is the way to go . they would move a lot of air
and would also keep the width of baffle down to an acceptable size.i think the
6.5" woofers in my mourdaunt short speakers are operating in a smallish internal volume due to cabinet shape. I am looking at ribbons because speakers i have heaard that used them i liked the sound of the trebble sounds clean and open .also there is many 2way speakers that use them ribbons like the fountek neocd3. neocd2 and neocd pro5i fountek recomend 1.5kh cossover for the larger pro 5i. would this not be low enough for a 2 way.
Also i think the tweeters on my last speakers ruark eqinox sounded better than my ms performance 6 tweeters i think they were scanspeak domes ( dont know what model) but in all other ways my ms p6 are better. i think using domes would be ok. some domes sound great but some are very bad adding there own
character to everything they play.
yes twin 8" woofers probably is the way to go . they would move a lot of air and would also keep the width of baffle down to an acceptable size.
If you are looking at output in the mid 20s then they are unlikely to be moving enough air but they are getting there and room gain will help.
i think the 6.5" woofers in my mourdaunt short speakers are operating in a smallish internal volume due to cabinet shape.
These are very likely designed as woofers rather than midwoofers and are very likely designed to work in the volume they have been given. A company like MS can make the driver fit the cabinet while we, to a fair extent, have to fit the cabinet to the driver we have chosen.
I am looking at ribbons because speakers i have heaard that used them i liked the sound of the trebble sounds clean and open .also there is many 2way speakers that use them ribbons like the fountek neocd3. neocd2 and neocd pro5i fountek recomend 1.5kh cossover for the larger pro 5i. would this not be low enough for a 2 way.
Yes 1.5kHz is low enough for a normal 2 way with a 6.5" or so midwoofer. But is the SPL sufficient and the distortion low enough for your particular ribbon to work satisfactorily around this frequency? My expectation would be no but I have no evidence one way or the other. But £237 is a crazy price for a tweeter.
If you want to use a ribbon then a short one will have better dispersion and might be available at a slightly less insane price. You would need to cross fairly high perhaps as high as 5kHz and this dictates the use of a small 2"-4" midrange. Which in turn would hinder the use of out-and-out subwoofers.
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