mmm glorious digital
http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quadroph/mymusic/mymusic.html - 😛
my samples-smal file size,and Ogg format-winamp 2.8 or higher.
i have mucked around with Fruity loops 3.0,it makes ts404 and other synth noises its fun 😛
some how i just love (for a few minutes haha)the hard dance regular quick beat with high speed chords from 'strings'.
cant beat the real thing(music that actualy is good)..its like an asymptote,u get closer and closer ,but never quite get there..cant recreate real music with fake synths.
im gona go to cheap store and grab some various cheap old cds to broaden my perception.
have you heard some latest pop- like on 'top of the poops'
(oops thats a typo but il leave it)
-its funyn when they are live,but u stil get the same voice when u get the main singer overdubbed chorused,+ digital steppign frequency effect,some how they must think it sounds good,i hate it.
i like some 3dness to the sound.but not stupid voice/vocoder combos..
try cher-'do u beleive in life after love''- corny cheese with vocodeyy voice
ugh overdone.
The Beginning Sound Carries Through....
A lot of recordings sound rough because the microphones sound rough.
Many mic preamps sound rough too, hence the reputation of Manley and Avalon studio mic preamps.
I have done some experimenting and the results will be used in some upcoming recording projects.
The mods changed the rec/pb sound of a Rode tube mic from ok, ho hum, not all that flash to gee-whizz.
Upon playback the female vocalist commented - "Great, Cool, that makes my voice sound sexy !", and it did.
With the suitable improvements, her recorded sound changed from not fully extended, grainyish, and some zedding and hardness in the mids, to capturing and portraying the finest little nuances and sexy lispy details in her nicely sweet voice.
I (and a sound engineer friend) put my ear at the microphone position and asked her to sing the passage again, and the 'through the sytem' playback was quite amazingly and remarkably close to her original natural sound.
My friend also used a modified mic on a documentary shoot, and he remarked that the recorded sound sounded 'just right' and did not need any post production eq or effects.
So the conclusion is - the originally captured sound is mission critical to the final result.
Effects and eq will obscure the originally captured sound, but will never fully hide the nature of the original mic/preamp combination.
Outstandingly good recordings come about because the original equipment sounded good.
As regards synthesised sounds, do not forget that the sounds are sampled, and the original recording character is apparent - witness that 'damm' Yamaha cymbal sound that used to be the norm on a million recordings.
Eric.
A lot of recordings sound rough because the microphones sound rough.
Many mic preamps sound rough too, hence the reputation of Manley and Avalon studio mic preamps.
I have done some experimenting and the results will be used in some upcoming recording projects.
The mods changed the rec/pb sound of a Rode tube mic from ok, ho hum, not all that flash to gee-whizz.
Upon playback the female vocalist commented - "Great, Cool, that makes my voice sound sexy !", and it did.
With the suitable improvements, her recorded sound changed from not fully extended, grainyish, and some zedding and hardness in the mids, to capturing and portraying the finest little nuances and sexy lispy details in her nicely sweet voice.
I (and a sound engineer friend) put my ear at the microphone position and asked her to sing the passage again, and the 'through the sytem' playback was quite amazingly and remarkably close to her original natural sound.
My friend also used a modified mic on a documentary shoot, and he remarked that the recorded sound sounded 'just right' and did not need any post production eq or effects.
So the conclusion is - the originally captured sound is mission critical to the final result.
Effects and eq will obscure the originally captured sound, but will never fully hide the nature of the original mic/preamp combination.
Outstandingly good recordings come about because the original equipment sounded good.
As regards synthesised sounds, do not forget that the sounds are sampled, and the original recording character is apparent - witness that 'damm' Yamaha cymbal sound that used to be the norm on a million recordings.
Eric.
Re: The Beginning Sound Carries Through....
I don't think this is the real reason! The real reason are the recording engineers!mrfeedback said:
Polishing Turds.....
In the live mixing world, there is a saying 'if it's crap coming off stage, then there is squat that can be done about it'.
Sure a lot of recording/production engineers overly effect what they have, but if it is not good to start with, then it ain't never gunna be good.
I have heard exceptionally good sound captured to hard drive (AUS$6000 Outboard AD/DA).
If the initial capture is good, then there is at least a chance that what comes out of the studio is good.
The next problem is the record company mastering studio, and this is where a lot of damage gets done too.
Eric.
In the live mixing world, there is a saying 'if it's crap coming off stage, then there is squat that can be done about it'.
Sure a lot of recording/production engineers overly effect what they have, but if it is not good to start with, then it ain't never gunna be good.
I have heard exceptionally good sound captured to hard drive (AUS$6000 Outboard AD/DA).
If the initial capture is good, then there is at least a chance that what comes out of the studio is good.
The next problem is the record company mastering studio, and this is where a lot of damage gets done too.
Eric.
i don´t say it sound like crap, but does anybody have this http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14717&highlight=gardiner CD and a good system who could tell me what is this noise?
Mystery Glitch
I have the wav file, and later today I will dump it to cdr and have a listen on my main system.
So far I hear a clicking sound, but am unable to identify what it is on my pc speakers or headphones.
Eric.
I have the wav file, and later today I will dump it to cdr and have a listen on my main system.
So far I hear a clicking sound, but am unable to identify what it is on my pc speakers or headphones.
Eric.
Mr Feedback,
Have you tried the API, GML or Focusright Mic Pre's?
Just curious how youd rate them.
Have you tried the API, GML or Focusright Mic Pre's?
Just curious how youd rate them.
Not Yet....
Sorry, no I haven't used any of those.
I get to hear good and bad things about all sorts of things though.
With my mic mods I am finding that the mic pre becomes less mission critical, interestingly.
Eric.
Sorry, no I haven't used any of those.
I get to hear good and bad things about all sorts of things though.
With my mic mods I am finding that the mic pre becomes less mission critical, interestingly.
Eric.
Da5id4Vz said:
If you can build gear, and want a scorchingly good design, use a VSE RTP3C preamp. Simply remove the RIAA (and maybe volume control) and set the gain at the front end. Amazingly linear, low noise, especially with the MAT02 in the cascode and nowhere near as complicated to build as it looks.
HIGH RES..
Hi,
Do you people have a system high enough in resolution allowing to discern between say, a Neumann mic and an AKG for example?
As far as most recording goes I'd advise to opt for KISS as well...
Cheers,😉
P.S. Just your local blind Shaolin priest talking...nothing to get worried about...
Hi,
Do you people have a system high enough in resolution allowing to discern between say, a Neumann mic and an AKG for example?
As far as most recording goes I'd advise to opt for KISS as well...
Cheers,😉
P.S. Just your local blind Shaolin priest talking...nothing to get worried about...
grataku said:
This is a little late...
I believe this to be true also. I have some "Pro Quality" test CD's that I listen to quite often. There is so much more detail and bass that it'll make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. Then I pop in a comerically produced CD, and the sound literally hurts my ears.
After designing and building my first true home brew amp, I was dissapointed to find that it sounded terrible... ...that is until a friend gave me the test CD's... ...It was then that I understood what was missing. It was the music, not the amp.
-Dan
/With a bad amp, everything sound the same. It takes a good amp to tell the difference between true "Artists" and rest of the "Performers".
Re: HIGH RES..
You crack me up! lol
I will, as soon as I build your ultimate preamp, right? RIGHT?? 😉
Surprisingly enough I found that I have most of the parts in the house.
fdegrove said:
You crack me up! lol
I will, as soon as I build your ultimate preamp, right? RIGHT?? 😉
Surprisingly enough I found that I have most of the parts in the house.
How hi is a hi-resolution system
Hard to tell. Depends a lot on the quality of the cd/LP. Many Neumann recordings seem to have a mid-range "bloom" while some AKG's are somewhat dry -- but reasonably flat, as far as I can (or can't
) tell.
BUT, as Dan (dkemppai) notes, pro-quality cd's are far more agreeable than the standard commercial offerings. This includes certain sheffield labs I've tried. True, the latter originally circulated in vinyl.
This said, I haven't managed to get redbook sound to approach my vinyl. The upper register is particularly irksome: it seems stuck @ around a 12kHz, and won't budge.
Cheers
Hard to tell. Depends a lot on the quality of the cd/LP. Many Neumann recordings seem to have a mid-range "bloom" while some AKG's are somewhat dry -- but reasonably flat, as far as I can (or can't
) tell.BUT, as Dan (dkemppai) notes, pro-quality cd's are far more agreeable than the standard commercial offerings. This includes certain sheffield labs I've tried. True, the latter originally circulated in vinyl.
This said, I haven't managed to get redbook sound to approach my vinyl. The upper register is particularly irksome: it seems stuck @ around a 12kHz, and won't budge.
Cheers
could anybody put pro audio or reference material as .wav on some webspace? or mail me if not too large ?
Finding Pro cd's
Through mastering or studio professionals, I suppose.
I heard a few through an acquaintance who is a recording engineer & has a (re)mastering lab.
Cheers
Through mastering or studio professionals, I suppose.
I heard a few through an acquaintance who is a recording engineer & has a (re)mastering lab.
Cheers
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