It is tough to get it right. The VTA also. The old 1928 63.5 and 119 mm still works OK. Many now use 66 mm.
I walk past the house of the man who invented that if I go to the cinema via Plantation Road.
I walk past the house of the man who invented that if I go to the cinema via Plantation Road.
BTW. Many have put forward the idea that distortion is making this sound " better". I would say direct drive is the real reason. The Technics 1210 was put up against a turnatable I designed which is a reference at one German magazine.A top Denon and a Transrotor at the price of a top range BMW. Although the snobs thought the 1210 domestic I thought it sounded great. The Denon was both good and bad. I think the arm was not that good. It was the Denon inteneded as a cutting lathe. The 1210 kept record pressing going. For that alone it is a masterpiece. Massive Attack and 808 State. That's the way to hear them.
One of my people made a 1210 with a 401 platter and wood block chassis. It sounds fantastic. My old dog LP12 is no match for it.
One of my people made a 1210 with a 401 platter and wood block chassis. It sounds fantastic. My old dog LP12 is no match for it.
Massive Attack
Blue Lines? Wouldn't mind a vinyl copy of that.

jeff
Vinyl can do what no other media can, The electrical music signal starts thorogh movement of coils in a magnet gap, just the inverse proces of how it ends: in coils in magnet gaps forcing air movement. Maybe this moving coil dymamic preemphasis is the real key to turntable supremacy
I'm sure most of us here that are playing records know how to align a cartridge, and would "speak up" if things were that far out of alignment.
jeff
It was just an anecdote. I am sure that the diyaudio forum members know the cartridge alignment is important. It was a long time ago when the Hi Fi press recommended that you leave 'set up' to your dealer. I am extolling the virtues of DIY versus believing the press or the dealers.
The Dealers . OMG no.
I am 100% happy with my Quad 33 mods. I suspect it is a very good preamp. It is very near to being useless for most users. That's the problem. I asked my friend what the big deal with the Golf GTi was. " Throw your granny the keys and she will know how to drive it ". The Quad doesn't have that.
The weird thing is very slightly changing the Quad gain has made it different. One unexspected thing is it sounds more correct. Tighter and more in the room. The tighter bass might be slightly less bass. This is weird. My SMGa speakers only say 55 Hz - 3 dB. The Quad has a brickwall filter below 20 Hz. This system has very powerful bass. The Quad circuit is like the ones we could buy as very cheap phono stages. It is completely in keeping with this thread. The speakers might have less distortion than some amps and will not easilly frequency double. I estimate the THD to below 1% total even including the PU at 90 dB sound level for the whole system. And yet this system has the traits of a " highly distorted " one. Come on guys this distortion sounds nice is denial. Wives know this. Eyes turn to the sky as a new bit of even worse hi fi comes home. Most people with 0.0001 % THD amps still have systems that have 10% THD. You will never get them to understand they can not hear that the amp is better because of it's THD. It is most likely because it has enough current.
I am 100% happy with my Quad 33 mods. I suspect it is a very good preamp. It is very near to being useless for most users. That's the problem. I asked my friend what the big deal with the Golf GTi was. " Throw your granny the keys and she will know how to drive it ". The Quad doesn't have that.
The weird thing is very slightly changing the Quad gain has made it different. One unexspected thing is it sounds more correct. Tighter and more in the room. The tighter bass might be slightly less bass. This is weird. My SMGa speakers only say 55 Hz - 3 dB. The Quad has a brickwall filter below 20 Hz. This system has very powerful bass. The Quad circuit is like the ones we could buy as very cheap phono stages. It is completely in keeping with this thread. The speakers might have less distortion than some amps and will not easilly frequency double. I estimate the THD to below 1% total even including the PU at 90 dB sound level for the whole system. And yet this system has the traits of a " highly distorted " one. Come on guys this distortion sounds nice is denial. Wives know this. Eyes turn to the sky as a new bit of even worse hi fi comes home. Most people with 0.0001 % THD amps still have systems that have 10% THD. You will never get them to understand they can not hear that the amp is better because of it's THD. It is most likely because it has enough current.
I met some guys from I think Griffin Audio Birmingham ( Radio ?? ). They seemed very good, sorry the good dealers. Some guys 18 miles North of Oxford were very dissapointing. I said to him about something and then said " I know you carn't stock everything " to which he said " it's not that , I listened to it and thought it not very good". This was a product with some good press. I thought it very strange go out of your way not to sell something and to dictate taste. I know the company and could have got some sale or return samples , very glad I didn't. I was treated like something he had picked up on his shoe. I might be the mad sceintist type, I can detect bad service as well as anyone.
To OP's question: Bass probably sounds good because you have good mid and high frequency response. It's the higher frequencies at the onset of bass notes that subjectively defines them.
That's true except from the very limited musical training I've had organists say bass creates treble and more so openess. Timing is all and we are not talking Linn/Naim PRAT. Or are we ?
I was thinking about the system I own. My analogy would be llike seeing a Bentley win an off road rally. My system I suspect is one of the few that would pass the most exacting hi fi standards. Not least beacause with no money I had to make the one I own work. Every piece of music I play has to be like taking a basketball shot. I try to get every ball in the basket. The result is an ultra low distortion system that can play rock music. I have a speaker in devellopement that will raise THD > 1% for the system. It sounds better on most music although obviously more coloured. It is exactly a 1930/50's baffle design. Instead of doing fancy stuff it is EQ'ed in the power amp feedback loop. I can borrow a Pro Audio equaliser that can answer any reasonable question I ask. It can do zero phase shift which alas is of no use. When I asked the question my friend was very surprised to find the makers had anticapated my use. That is to mimic analogue EQ in all it's permutations. Pro often is 4th order or nothing. To do the next step I made the power amp unity gain stable. I will back it off when I know what I want. The best bit is I have a first class reference on hand. Colleen has voted to rehouse the Magneplanars, I doubt I will give them up.
Last night I found a DGG Ravel that the Quad still needs 10 to be at a concert volume, that's the first record that didn't clip at 8 . If I find more a pot might be the best option to change gain or Lorlin switch for thoese ones. It is tempting to increase voltage to the second BC109 alone ( 24 V ) . Or give it a JFET CCS. First will be to replace 2 x 25 uF and 2 x 100 uF in the signal path. Other than that DL110 with modified M1 board is propper high fidelity.
I was thinking about the system I own. My analogy would be llike seeing a Bentley win an off road rally. My system I suspect is one of the few that would pass the most exacting hi fi standards. Not least beacause with no money I had to make the one I own work. Every piece of music I play has to be like taking a basketball shot. I try to get every ball in the basket. The result is an ultra low distortion system that can play rock music. I have a speaker in devellopement that will raise THD > 1% for the system. It sounds better on most music although obviously more coloured. It is exactly a 1930/50's baffle design. Instead of doing fancy stuff it is EQ'ed in the power amp feedback loop. I can borrow a Pro Audio equaliser that can answer any reasonable question I ask. It can do zero phase shift which alas is of no use. When I asked the question my friend was very surprised to find the makers had anticapated my use. That is to mimic analogue EQ in all it's permutations. Pro often is 4th order or nothing. To do the next step I made the power amp unity gain stable. I will back it off when I know what I want. The best bit is I have a first class reference on hand. Colleen has voted to rehouse the Magneplanars, I doubt I will give them up.
Last night I found a DGG Ravel that the Quad still needs 10 to be at a concert volume, that's the first record that didn't clip at 8 . If I find more a pot might be the best option to change gain or Lorlin switch for thoese ones. It is tempting to increase voltage to the second BC109 alone ( 24 V ) . Or give it a JFET CCS. First will be to replace 2 x 25 uF and 2 x 100 uF in the signal path. Other than that DL110 with modified M1 board is propper high fidelity.
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