So many variables 🙄There is nothing you can buy I have heard that sounds even remotely close to as good as they do.
Meanwell SMPS (e.g. RS-25-12) with a LDO after is a pretty good DC source. But it needs an LDO.
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I have only had one PC SMPS fail and that was because the fan vent became blocked with dust. Unblocked it and it has been fine since for many years.
The ST120 had a problem with low output transistor idle current under some conditions, like soft. They had some crossover distortion. More rail voltage may have resulted in more idle current, which would improve the distortion. As they often blew up output transistors, a risky procedure.
I own one. Djoffe designed a 7 transistor circuit to control the idle bias current with a feedback loop. It works, I'm listening to it now. Tends to blow up 2n3904 sense transistors, use ztx653. Dynaco Stereo 120...can be beautiful
TIP mod (see greg dunn website) helps too, TIP3055 or MJ15003 output transistors helped distortion a lot over 40636 originals. More questions post on thread above.
I also added 2 fans from PCAT supplies to cool the inadequate heat sinks. Runs 14 hours a day often, NTE60 OT's are now tens of thousands of hours old.
Ah both my ST120s (one stock, one modded) are long gone, along with a couple modded AR-XA TTs, my trusty Micro Seiki TT and several tone arms.
My ST70 sits on a shelf but a ST400 effortlessly drives my subs.
The technical content has been kind of fluff so far. There are many specs to evaluate the performance of a PSU beyond noise. Also, short MTBF's that some use to conflate planned obsolescence with technical limits are irrelevant. Would love to hear from the gurus why there aren't any switching super regulators, at least not in the DIY world that I know of.
Linear Audio Silent Switcher MkII – diyAudio Store
It's too small to order yourself but combines the best of switching tech with analog LDO.
It's too small to order yourself but combines the best of switching tech with analog LDO.
Would love to hear from the gurus why there aren't any switching super regulators, at least not in the DIY world that I know of.
They're out there, but as you noted they're kind of rare.
The prime reason for this is that SMPS design is not for the light hearted. It's a specialty all of it's own, quite often beyond the knowledge and resources of your typical DIY hobbiest. It's both easier and cheaper to buy than build in this case.
I'd like the hive's opinion on another product I'm cynical about.
Inverter generators are being pushed hard over the traditional copper & iron versions, for reasons similar to SMPSs, but good inverters (alone) are often more expensive than the entire generator.
I suspect there's some major corner-cutting going on. Amiright?
Inverter generators are being pushed hard over the traditional copper & iron versions, for reasons similar to SMPSs, but good inverters (alone) are often more expensive than the entire generator.
I suspect there's some major corner-cutting going on. Amiright?
An alternator/inverter is quite different from a battery/inverter.
Working higher than line freq reduces the iron needed, and this alone may pay for a board of parts.
Working the alternator 3-phase instead of single-phase saves something.
Stepping up from battery voltage needs high current and a transformer; the alternator can deliver line voltage directly so just a matter of re-slicing to 50/60Hz.
The available energy from an engine-alternator is strictly limited; the short-term energy from a big battery is un-limited.
The "killer" advantage for the customer is the engine does not run a multiple of 50/60Hz, it can throttle-back on light load. Less noise, less fuel.
But of course there is major corner-cutting, if you shop by price.
Working higher than line freq reduces the iron needed, and this alone may pay for a board of parts.
Working the alternator 3-phase instead of single-phase saves something.
Stepping up from battery voltage needs high current and a transformer; the alternator can deliver line voltage directly so just a matter of re-slicing to 50/60Hz.
The available energy from an engine-alternator is strictly limited; the short-term energy from a big battery is un-limited.
The "killer" advantage for the customer is the engine does not run a multiple of 50/60Hz, it can throttle-back on light load. Less noise, less fuel.
But of course there is major corner-cutting, if you shop by price.
When you working since 2006 in Sales, you can see what Brands and models fail and comes back from costumer to service.
For Brand Amp > 1000 EUR / USD I expect rugged reliability and not fail.
When up to 10 - 25 % fail within 3 to 5 years
If 10 - 25 % cheap Chinese junk fail similar Behringer fail, its ok, but not for an expensive branded device
The problem isn't inherent to SMPS, it's due to cheap or poorly specified ones.
I know of medical devices that have been in the field for 20 years 24/7/365 powered by SMPS without failures.
It is true that many commercial grade devices use as cheap of a supply as they can afford, which often have caps fail earlier than one would like due to ripple current / heat, or low quality.
Will the average linear supply last longer? Probably.
I have 3 Seasonic PC PSUs that are almost 10 years old now and still running 24/7, and they were $100 or a little less.
I have several 70 yr old amps that will knock a lot of spots off modern ones.
They are going perfectly fine after all those years.
I also have a pair of 55yr old amps I use daily, that sound absolutely fantastic.
There is nothing you can buy I have heard that sounds even remotely close to as good as they do.
And you have these in your p.a. rental park and they go out weekly because customers rent them?
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Stepping up from battery voltage needs high current and a transformer; the alternator can deliver line voltage directly so just a matter of re-slicing to 50/60Hz.
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Transformer? I thought battery inverters used high frequency choppers to eliminate the big step-up transformer.
I think in the DIY world the reliability is not that big issue. If SMPS fails after 5 years it is easy to replace it (I have a 10 year old PC and it still runs and used everyday). In "Pass" forum there are some projects using SMPS for both pre and power amps and noise level when measuring using Arta or similar is very low and nearly 100% free from 50/60 and 100/120 Hz noise. A common mode choke as post filtering is very good. I was very much against SMPS in the beginning but now I will consider them and then make a solid post filtering. Brand like MeanWell seems quite reliable. Often the SMPS is a "brick" and placed "far" away from amp (1m or so).
Meanwell SMPS (e.g. RS-25-12) with a LDO after is a pretty good DC source. But it needs an LDO.
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Could you please elaborate ?
I've got a MeanWell SMPS and would like to improve TI3255EVM amp.
Thanks
If 10 - 25 % cheap Chinese junk fail similar Behringer fail, its ok, but not for an expensive branded device
I bought 4 off ebay and had 100% fail.
I bought 4 off ebay and had 100% fail.
Were all 4 in a single purchase from the same supplier?
Were all 4 in a single purchase from the same supplier?
Yes and all run well under their rating.
One even blew out house circuit breaker.
for diy, look at the next 50" samsung flat tv you see out for the garbage. They have a 60 v switcher built in. The one I salvaged had obvious blown 200 v line filter cap, and aluminum foil around the fuse. Shouldn't be too much work to reactivate the supply only, but requires a single supply amp design. I'm building Elvee Ol Fashioned Max but he specified 50 v max. Lots of TO247 Nfets in there too, plus cool 1.5"x3.5" heat sinks.I bought 4 off ebay and had 100% fail.
Reworked a Peavey CS800s switcher supply (blew .160 A fuse, 1000 uf cap in 12 v bias supply on control board at fault) listening to it right now. Put all new 5000 hour up caps in the power supply box. It's a '98 build, about time.
Yes and all run well under their rating.
One even blew out house circuit breaker.
I'd bet real money he picked up a pallet load deal that included a bunch of returns and exchanges from places like Amazon and NewEgg and was ambitiously selling defective stuff back out to the public.
I've purchased about 50 of the things over the past 4 years from multiple suppliers, through Amazon, and haven't yet had a single failure.
You got messed over.
They were off ebay and from China and they took a while to come.
They were replaced with 4 from CPC and not had a problem since.
Interesting they all went with a day or two of each other.
They were replaced with 4 from CPC and not had a problem since.
Interesting they all went with a day or two of each other.
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