My best option would be the Panasonic caps and bypass them with small black gate caps and also some bleeding resistors.
If you want the best : black gate, mundorf
If you want the best : black gate, mundorf
Gabdx1 said:My best option would be the Panasonic caps and bypass them with small black gate caps and also some bleeding resistors.
If you want the best : black gate, mundorf
But aren't the Mundorf electrolytics just rebadged capacitors made by Fischer and Tauscher (except more expensive)?
Where did you get that information???
If it is made by the same company it is sure a more expensive and better cap. You can say the same for BG and many other things. What is the point, you think a company would just print munrdof on ordinary caps just to make more money ? Give me a break...
Those are the M-lytic, not very expensive if you consider the quality... Just personal opinion, I don't have any mundorf caps, just that all people who use them say they are best out there.
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mcap_mlytic_hc.html
[url]http://www.mundorf.com/english/Capacitors-Amplifier_eng.pdf
BG are maybe little better. To...s it particularly suited for tube amplifiers?
If it is made by the same company it is sure a more expensive and better cap. You can say the same for BG and many other things. What is the point, you think a company would just print munrdof on ordinary caps just to make more money ? Give me a break...
Those are the M-lytic, not very expensive if you consider the quality... Just personal opinion, I don't have any mundorf caps, just that all people who use them say they are best out there.
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mcap_mlytic_hc.html
[url]http://www.mundorf.com/english/Capacitors-Amplifier_eng.pdf
BG are maybe little better. To...s it particularly suited for tube amplifiers?
What about THELs "Krummer" caps
But seems like they have stopped supply of the big one that looked much like M-Lytic, but just the same as too expencive
btw, I have once built amps with HUGE 220.000uf, and it wasnt too good really and sounded slow, and I expected the opposite...I wont use very big supply caps again, never
And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either
But seems like they have stopped supply of the big one that looked much like M-Lytic, but just the same as too expencive
btw, I have once built amps with HUGE 220.000uf, and it wasnt too good really and sounded slow, and I expected the opposite...I wont use very big supply caps again, never
And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either
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Gabdx1 said:Where did you get that information???
If it is made by the same company it is sure a more expensive and better cap. You can say the same for BG and many other things. What is the point, you think a company would just print munrdof on ordinary caps just to make more money ? Give me a break...
Those are the M-lytic, not very expensive if you consider the quality... Just personal opinion, I don't have any mundorf caps, just that all people who use them say they are best out there.
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mcap_mlytic_hc.html
[url]http://www.mundorf.com/english/Capacitors-Amplifier_eng.pdf
BG are maybe little better. To... them tends to raise the price significantly.
Hi MCampbell,
I guess it is the company specifications and marketing that makes the price.
When you have the tools you can build anything from crap to best of the world.
'And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either' lol ? what are you going to use then ? A dedicated regulated MOSFET power supply ? Still needs a capacitor bank hehe
I guess it is the company specifications and marketing that makes the price.
When you have the tools you can build anything from crap to best of the world.
'And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either' lol ? what are you going to use then ? A dedicated regulated MOSFET power supply ? Still needs a capacitor bank hehe
Gabdx1 said:Hi MCampbell,
I guess it is the company specifications and marketing that makes the price.
When you have the tools you can build anything from crap to best of the world.
'And I dont like any kind of paralelled caps either' lol ? what are you going to use then ? A dedicated regulated MOSFET power supply ? Still needs a capacitor bank hehe
I do believe you're right!!
I take it the 2nd part wasn't for me (but just for the record, I think paralleled caps are brilliant, although a parallel-series capacitor-bank is even more fun!)
Why do you think they are any better than the quality they do fore very demanding situations
Think of windmills, trains, aircrafts, military etc
Besides, why do you believe that Mundorf is more clever than a big and experienced company
Do you think that Mundorf can learn them anything
I bet they are no more than a relabeled product
They are made fore high currents, as are many other high quality industrial caps
Whether they are good fore audio is a different matter, and something of which they know nothing about, and couldnt care less about
Thats our craziness
Whether a cap sounds good or not is probably more accidental
Some people are very skilled in finding this lucky one
And present them as a superiour audio cap
The origin of such a cap might come as a very big surprice
Resistors is in the same ballgame
Think of windmills, trains, aircrafts, military etc
Besides, why do you believe that Mundorf is more clever than a big and experienced company
Do you think that Mundorf can learn them anything
I bet they are no more than a relabeled product
They are made fore high currents, as are many other high quality industrial caps
Whether they are good fore audio is a different matter, and something of which they know nothing about, and couldnt care less about
Thats our craziness
Whether a cap sounds good or not is probably more accidental
Some people are very skilled in finding this lucky one
And present them as a superiour audio cap
The origin of such a cap might come as a very big surprice
Resistors is in the same ballgame
tinitus said:Whether a cap sounds good or not is probably more accidental
My opinion as well. It applies equally to wire, resistors and almost everything else. Luckily for Mundorf F&T already had the gold paint 🙂
analog_sa said:
My opinion as well. It applies equally to wire, resistors and almost everything else. Luckily for Mundorf F&T already had the gold paint 🙂
...not to mention the "Made in Germany" typesetting!!!
(Although if you look at the ZN tin-foil caps "Made in Germany" is strangely missing - could that be because the ZN's are, in fact, manufactured in Switzerland....?)
Any other choices since last time??
T-Power BHC AEROVOX - 10.000uF 63V
Evox Rifa PEH 169 - 10.000uF 63V
BC Vishay 101/102 PHR-ST - 10000uF 63V
T-Power BHC AEROVOX - 10.000uF 63V
Evox Rifa PEH 169 - 10.000uF 63V
BC Vishay 101/102 PHR-ST - 10000uF 63V
If you have noticed my Avatar picture.
These caps are from a Mark Levinson power supply.
Where John Curl have been designer of amplifiers.
A close up of this power supply ( See Attachment ) shows they are PHILIPS electrolyts.
Now there are other making very good electrolyts.
http://corporate.evoxrifa.com/
May I suggest a visit to RIFA website. Evox RIFA capacitors.
They have very high class big capacitors.
They are often WHITE.
Here is their
Electroytic Capacitors Application Guide in PDF
Welcome
Here is another interesting paper:
HIGH VOLTAGE ALUMINUM ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITORS:
WHERE IS THE LIMIT?
Welcome
Lineup
If you have noticed my Avatar picture.
These caps are from a Mark Levinson power supply.
Where John Curl have been designer of amplifiers.
A close up of this power supply ( See Attachment ) shows they are PHILIPS electrolyts.
Now there are other making very good electrolyts.
http://corporate.evoxrifa.com/
May I suggest a visit to RIFA website. Evox RIFA capacitors.
They have very high class big capacitors.
They are often WHITE.
Here is their
Electroytic Capacitors Application Guide in PDF
Welcome
Here is another interesting paper:
HIGH VOLTAGE ALUMINUM ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITORS:
WHERE IS THE LIMIT?
Welcome
Lineup
Evox-Rifa used to be the best 10+ years ago. If the designs are still similar, they would be my first choice. The build quality, tolerances and even MTBF exceeded all other designs regardless of brand name. I think I read somewhere recently they were bought by a huge conglomerate(?). I admit; I didn't do any further research on this buy-out as to design change, etc.
FEBG_electrolytic_screw_terminalIf you have noticed my Avatar picture.
These caps are from a Mark Levinson power supply.
Where John Curl have been designer of amplifiers.
A close up of this power supply ( See Attachment ) shows they are PHILIPS electrolyts.
Now there are other making very good electrolyts.
http://corporate.evoxrifa.com/
May I suggest a visit to RIFA website. Evox RIFA capacitors.
They have very high class big capacitors.
They are often WHITE.
Here is their
Electroytic Capacitors Application Guide in PDF
Welcome
Here is another interesting paper:
HIGH VOLTAGE ALUMINUM ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITORS:
WHERE IS THE LIMIT?
Welcome
Lineup
These look like the Evox-Rifa replacements by Kemet. The PEH169 series seems to be "equivalent" to the original Evox. I used originals about 10 years ago; they had the best specs. then and had a MTBF of 20 years!
Japanese Capacitors (First choice, very good quality):
Rubycon
Elna
Panasonic (Matsushita)
Nippon Chemicon
Nichicon
Hitachi
Sanyo
Toshin Kogyo
Fujitsu
Second choice (Taiwanese, O.K quality)
Samyoung
Taicon
Teapo
G-Luxon
Kelna
Jackon
Samxon
Yageo
Ltec
Lelon
Aishi
Koshin
Capxon
Samwha
Jamicon
HEC
Elite
Not listed in any order, quality wise
Rubycon
Elna
Panasonic (Matsushita)
Nippon Chemicon
Nichicon
Hitachi
Sanyo
Toshin Kogyo
Fujitsu
Second choice (Taiwanese, O.K quality)
Samyoung
Taicon
Teapo
G-Luxon
Kelna
Jackon
Samxon
Yageo
Ltec
Lelon
Aishi
Koshin
Capxon
Samwha
Jamicon
HEC
Elite
Not listed in any order, quality wise
The three in your second list beginning with 'Sam' are Korean rather than Taiwanese. I'd rate Samyoung the best of the Koreans based on specs, no idea about reliability in practice.
LOL ! And the european capacitors !😀
In the list above I find a 10K Jamaicon or Samwha to work good with a 1200 Panasonic FC !
In the list above I find a 10K Jamaicon or Samwha to work good with a 1200 Panasonic FC !
>>OM abraxalito
You are correct
Samyoung is a joint venture of Nippon Chemicon located in S Korea.... Taicon has tie up with Nichicon. Teapo acquired G Luxon and now both are same. Panasonic have acquired Sanyo capacitor division (Semiconductor by ON, formerly Motorola)
>>OM Eldam
European brands are:
Epcos
Frolyt
Rodenstein
Vishay
You are correct
Samyoung is a joint venture of Nippon Chemicon located in S Korea.... Taicon has tie up with Nichicon. Teapo acquired G Luxon and now both are same. Panasonic have acquired Sanyo capacitor division (Semiconductor by ON, formerly Motorola)
>>OM Eldam
European brands are:
Epcos
Frolyt
Rodenstein
Vishay
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