Who Invented The Loudspeaker!?!?

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Steve Eddy said:
Prior to that I was looking at doing a single driver speaker using the Jordan JX-92. Have you tried a single JX-92 compared to the four Bandors?

No Steve, I haven't heard the Jordan JX-92. My only experience with Jordans was listening to a linear array of four 2" units back in about 1983. I was at Ted Jordan's house and he very kindly helped me to design a hi-fi system for a car. I'm sure that the JX-92 is a very good unit indeed although I'm not sure how high they can go.

I'd be interested to hear a single 2" unit (Bandor or Jordan) horn-loaded. Has anyone heard such a thing? It would certainly work with your 6W amp.

Steve, yes you do need Excel to run that linear array program. Fortunately, it doesn't sound like you would go the linear array route anyway.

Incidentally, I would love to hear your "the Interface" device. It seems interesting and looks great. If anyone's interested, they should check out www.q-audio.com.

BTW Frank, I hope you're not going to charge Steve $50 for this. I swear he had nothing to do with it.:)
 
7V said:
No Steve, I haven't heard the Jordan JX-92. My only experience with Jordans was listening to a linear array of four 2" units back in about 1983. I was at Ted Jordan's house and he very kindly helped me to design a hi-fi system for a car. I'm sure that the JX-92 is a very good unit indeed although I'm not sure how high they can go.

Actually I should have said the JX-92S, which is the most recent version.

They get up to 20kHz. Got a bit of a rising top end, which is why Ted recommends they be listened to just slightly off axis.

Here's a response plot:

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I'd be interested to hear a single 2" unit (Bandor or Jordan) horn-loaded. Has anyone heard such a thing? It would certainly work with your 6W amp.

Not aware of anyone who's done it. But I'm sure someone out there probably has.

And you'd really have to front and rear load them to get them up much from their rather average high-80s sensitivity. And the Jordans and the Bandors aren't terribly well suited for horn loading due to their rather high Qts. Ideally you want something in the .2 to .3 range.

Steve, yes you do need Excel to run that linear array program. Fortunately, it doesn't sound like you would go the linear array route anyway.

Nope. At least not for nearfield listening.

Incidentally, I would love to hear your "the Interface" device. It seems interesting and looks great. If anyone's interested, they should check out www.q-audio.com.

Thank you. (Psssssst! Your check's in the mail ;) )

How long will you be in Colorado? I've a silver/maple unit floating around that's due to either come back to me or on to the next person who wants to give it a go. If you'd like I could arrange to have it sent to you in Colorado. Feel free to EMail me if you'd like to make arrangements.

BTW Frank, I hope you're not going to charge Steve $50 for this. I swear he had nothing to do with it.:)

Yeah, that's the ticket. I had nothing to do wiht it, Frank. :)

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Steve Eddy said:
They get up to 20kHz. Got a bit of a rising top end, which is why Ted recommends they be listened to just slightly off axis.

Very nice curves for a full-range. I'm sure they'd sound great too. I wonder whether you could mitigate for the slight top end rise with a suitable grille cloth. Of course listening slightly off axis would be a good, practical solution.

Steve, I'll let you know when I'm coming to Colorado. I must admit a trip to the West Coast would be tempting, although probably not possible this time.

Steve
PS: What are you doing up at this time? It must be about 3.00am out there.
 
The first loudspeakers in a box were produced in 1958 by a French company called Cabesse.

Jensen has produced the first commercial bass-reflex in 1936. But G.A.Briggs (Wharfedale) has written he was working with various enclosures in 1930 or so. Before this, drivers were mounted in radio receivers, rear open, or on a small board, but low frequency response of amplifiers was so poor that it causes no audible inconvenience.

It's possible that Celestion (Rola ?) was manufacturing similar boxes at this prehistoric time :)


Regards, Pierre Lacombe.
 
7V said:
Very nice curves for a full-range. I'm sure they'd sound great too. I wonder whether you could mitigate for the slight top end rise with a suitable grille cloth. Of course listening slightly off axis would be a good, practical solution.

Yup. Just a little extra toe-in and voila. :)

Steve, I'll let you know when I'm coming to Colorado. I must admit a trip to the West Coast would be tempting, although probably not possible this time.

No problem. Sacramento's not all that exciting anyway. :)

Steve
PS: What are you doing up at this time? It must be about 3.00am out there.

I'm just a bit time shifted. I prefer working in the relative peace and quiet of the late night/early morning. I usually sleep from 3:00-9:00 or 4:00-10:00 depending.

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Re: Re: Who Invented The Loudspeaker!?!?

Netlist said:



ststone could be right, but here's a nice link:
http://inventors.about.com/gi/dynam...tory.acusd.edu/gen/recording/loudspeaker.html

/Hugo - thinks we could start a new forum on this topic...;) :eek:


Thankyou very much.. :) But I did somehow manage to find that link on my own.. :) lol

7V said:
A German, Ernst Siemens, patented the first moving coil loudspeaker in 1877, although Philip Reis made some sort of diaphragm loudspeaker in 1860.

Even before this, in 1837, Charles Page of Massachusets discovered that sound would be produced by placing a horseshoe magnet in front of or around an electrical coil.

In 1924, two General Electric researchers, Chester W. Rice and Edward Washburn Kellogg patented the modern, moving coil, direct radiator, loudspeaker. This became the basic design for all subsequent moving coil loudspeakers.

The first loudspeakers in a box were produced in 1958 by a French company called Cabesse.

The most advanced, high quality loudspeaker drive units available today are made by Bandor, a small company in England which produces hand-made units capable of astonishing acoustic performance.

The best modern proponent of the "box" loudspeaker is, without a doubt, the British company Seventh Veil.

The most biased posting in this thread has been posted by Steve Margolis of Seventh Veil Loudspeakers.

I hope that you find this illuminating.

Steve
PS: If you would like to see a photo of the Bandor units in a Seventh Veil cabinet (circa 1990), please click this link.
Then watch this space for an exciting, new system being released within a few weeks.


VERY HELPFULL!!! The sheet I was given with inventions, dates, and peoples names said the loudspeaker was invented in 1924 (as you said) but there are many before that.. :)
 
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