Another immortal character, the elves (Lord of The Rings). This tastefully done segment describes what it would be like when compared to mortals. LOTR The Two Towers - Arwen's Fate - YouTube
Check out the “Black Mirror” 3rd season, “San Junipero” episode. One of the best pieces of cinematography I’ve seen, on topic.
Perhaps if we consider the number of wars in mankind's last few hundred years, living to 3k probably means you're going to encounter war. Lots of 'em. I just gotta believe going through say, a few dozen wars - always able physically - would have to wreck havoc on someone after a while.
I just dont think given mankind's history, that our 3k man would make it very far along that timescale - mentally. There's nothing wrong with the brain or body on a biological level. It's the mind's programming that would take the cumulative hit from multiple ordinary lifespans of time that include war. Certainly there would be famous exceptions, but I think most would ultimately perish due to compounded mental disorder.
Or maybe they'll have a major reset button for you. 3-5 years and you're completely back up to speed again in the same body, good as before. Something everyone living for 3k does periodically - and it's big business. Especially for the people that successfully re-convince you, that you are who you are.
I just dont think given mankind's history, that our 3k man would make it very far along that timescale - mentally. There's nothing wrong with the brain or body on a biological level. It's the mind's programming that would take the cumulative hit from multiple ordinary lifespans of time that include war. Certainly there would be famous exceptions, but I think most would ultimately perish due to compounded mental disorder.
Or maybe they'll have a major reset button for you. 3-5 years and you're completely back up to speed again in the same body, good as before. Something everyone living for 3k does periodically - and it's big business. Especially for the people that successfully re-convince you, that you are who you are.
I hear what you say, surely looks like a brick wall. But that brick wall is in essence noting more than simultaneous failure of multiple organs and/or functions. Which, in essence again, is nothing that cannot be 'fixed' by medical technology if sufficiently advanced.
Jan
And anyway - isn't that a base assumption of this discussion, that med tech can fix .. anything pretty much? Then what do you do with the time...
A few people have mentioned the increasing population as a problem, however if you look at the birth rates for most of the western world they are below replacement rate, and continuing in their decline. Plus the fertility of men is declining and no one seems to now why. Possibly the biggest news stories of our life time, and seemingly ender the radar. Surly because of the extreme of human intelligence combined with the complexity of modern society, a humans worth ( for the species as a whole ) goes way beyond reproduction ?
Maybe after the first few wars we’d actually figure out how ignorant we are killing each over wealth, religion, and politics. (I’m assuming mentioning religion in a broad scope is ok?……if not please strike it from the record!)
Seems with only a hundred year maximum lifetime by the time we figure it we die……..then wash,rinse,repeat!
So true.
The only reason we get to hear musicians like Hendrix and Kingfish is because they were promoted. I know great musicians that you'll never hear outside of a club, or their home.
So many musicians succumb to drugs and alcohol. Hendrix and Syd Barret are textbook examples. That's why I express concern for young talent like Kingfish. He obviously has discipline as well as talent, and I hope it stays that way.
I wonder all the time what he would have done.
For me it is. If there is anything we have learned from technology, is that if you ask, is it possible to xyz, the answer always is - 'just watch me do it!', even if you need to wait a few decades.
Jan
I don't think individuals are important for the species as a whole. We're 7 billion pushing 8 billion, how important for the species can I or you be?
Its been argued that big breakthroughs are almost inevitable, and if a guy like Newton hadn't worked out his laws, another guy would have done it, maybe a decade later.
Example: Darwin and Wallace. The only reason that we all know Darwin and almost nobody knows Wallace is because Darwin, when he got air of the discoveries of Wallace, was smart enough to publish just a few months ahead of Wallace. But without Darwin 'we' would still have discovered evolution by natural selection.
Jan
We build up wisdom as we get older. I'm sure everyone has regrets on the things they've done when younger and learned something from it. There was a detective TV series in the US little while ago called Forever. It's an immortal character who works as a detective in New York City using his accumulated knowledge.
"Henry's long life has given him broad knowledge and remarkable observation skills which impress most people he encounters,..."
I think living longer is a plus when it comes to knowledge.
We've been discussing that, no?
So Jan, I think the more important question in all this is, will you need forever to do that HV differential probe? 😉
Of course by far the biggest problem with living to 3,000 years old is how many times you'd have to replace or transfer your music collection - vinyl, reel to reel, cassette, CD, mini disc, 12" laser disc, SACD, MP3 - and that's just in the last 50 years or so.
What I mean is playing music and making music are different topics although they can, not always, be related. In terms of how this may relate to this thread, God help us in what we may have to endure! OTOH, I live from the 90's down, lots of classic radio stations/music still to be discovered at 64 years old. 😉
I hope I can make this come true as it's going to take from now till eternity to use all the drivers I have stored for when I am further inspired to add to my speaker collection or you know, for 'a rainy day'.
My name is Cal and I'm a Speakerholic.
My name is Cal and I'm a Speakerholic.
It probably will take many normal lifetimes to use up all the speaker drivers. But I hope to God that my stash of power transistors (and my TO-92’s as well) outlasts me. I’d hate to think what they’re going to want for an MJL21194 in 30 years, if you can even GET them. I don’t want to be stuck buying some class D Tripath nonsense that can’t put out any real power, and takes more eyesight, hand-eye coordination, and tooling to build than I’m ever going to have.