Cheap plug…….If there’s any “geezers” in the FL panhandle area who’d like to train an apprentice amp builder I’d be all about it….I’m 56 (still relatively young I suppose) I’m pretty sharp but have a learning disability that needs ‘hands on’ tangible training to get the point across. You tube has helped but have found that maybe 2/3 of it is BS.
I can trade out woodworking skills…..I’m a master craftsman with a complete shop.
I can trade out woodworking skills…..I’m a master craftsman with a complete shop.
This is actually a mith sold to the rich people that are more prone to believe in their eternal value and creativity than the poor ones...Now the rich people are also very aware of the fact that in order for them to live forever, there must be a way to kill the poor...Aren't you bothered by Elon Musk promising to move some chosen milion people to Mars or others claiming there's not enough food for everybody on Earth? Planting rapeseed for fuel undermining food sources is the new bio-energy, isn't it?
Then there's one more thing i'm not sure the science is really able to deal with as increasing the renewal percentage of brain cells can lead erasily to brain cancers.This is actually the main problem of eternal cells or renewing mechanism in biology cause they can easily lead to all sorts of cancers.As long as there's no real success in curing cancers after 100 years of hardcore medical science , i am really doubtfull on the effectiveness of renewing body cells for 3000 years continually.People have problems with weight, we are too light and have too fast methabolism to be as succesfull as a whale in killing cancer cells while the very energy that fuels us, which is the SUN i also guilty for most of the ionising radiations that lead to skin cancers and maintaining your skin for 3000 years sounds a bit unrealistic. Although we are not completely aware of this , it seems that the brain starts loosing its calculation capacity after just 30 years of life...so we'd need cyborg technology to help us ... Scroll Conversations | Viswanathan Anand - YouTube
Then there's one more thing i'm not sure the science is really able to deal with as increasing the renewal percentage of brain cells can lead erasily to brain cancers.This is actually the main problem of eternal cells or renewing mechanism in biology cause they can easily lead to all sorts of cancers.As long as there's no real success in curing cancers after 100 years of hardcore medical science , i am really doubtfull on the effectiveness of renewing body cells for 3000 years continually.People have problems with weight, we are too light and have too fast methabolism to be as succesfull as a whale in killing cancer cells while the very energy that fuels us, which is the SUN i also guilty for most of the ionising radiations that lead to skin cancers and maintaining your skin for 3000 years sounds a bit unrealistic. Although we are not completely aware of this , it seems that the brain starts loosing its calculation capacity after just 30 years of life...so we'd need cyborg technology to help us ... Scroll Conversations | Viswanathan Anand - YouTube
I am not saying we will soon, or ever, reach this point. I was just discussing the issues to cope with it, and how we would live such a long timespan, what would we do, etc.
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If you happen to feel affiliation with the ideas of reincarnation, there's supposed to be a karmic purpose, a lesson, an achievement in each life lived. Perhaps if you lived 3000 years, those purposes would simply be satisfied all in one swath. Then you get another 3000 to work on the next batch.
At an on-site meeting hosted by Tektronix, I once suggested that I wanted a probe connected to the scope using a fiber optic cable. "Why would you want that?" was their response. They built one and now have it as a product - a few years too late for my career. Heard tell it powers the electronics in the probe end via laser shot through a fiber within the cord, I assume into a photovoltaic within the probe end.
At an on-site meeting hosted by Tektronix, I once suggested that I wanted a probe connected to the scope using a fiber optic cable. "Why would you want that?" was their response. They built one and now have it as a product - a few years too late for my career. Heard tell it powers the electronics in the probe end via laser shot through a fiber within the cord, I assume into a photovoltaic within the probe end.
Mortality is written into our genes just as every other phase of development is, it's no coincidence that there is a brick wall at 120 years old or so that nobody gets past. Entropy and the Second Law of Thermodynamics is a b***h but there's no escaping her.
Cheap plug…….If there’s any “geezers” in the FL panhandle area who’d like to train an apprentice amp builder I’d be all about it….I’m 56 (still relatively young I suppose) I’m pretty sharp but have a learning disability that needs ‘hands on’ tangible training to get the point across. You tube has helped but have found that maybe 2/3 of it is BS.
I can trade out woodworking skills…..I’m a master craftsman with a complete shop.
I wish I could teach you but I'm still learning myself. And these guys aren't ready for amp design either. I'm teaching them about gain structure, power requirements for sound reinforcement, stuff that any stereo buff should know but so few do. One guy has the skills to buy assembled amplifier and bluetooth boards and hook them all up into nice DIY projects. The other guy is an underground DJ and does music production. I try to teach them what they can understand, and what can help them do what they like to do. The DJ is all about the sound; he tries to shape the sound like an artist uses color. He didn't even understand the physical nature of sound, musical scales, or what compression was about (even though he uses a compressor). Understanding these principles has made him a much better DJ because now he knows what he's doing. Now he's bugging me to build all sorts of effects circuits, and I am going to try to build some.
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There’d be a lot of over population issues for starters.
First, work hard, put money into long term investments. Then enjoy 2,900yrs of retirement living, each day you sit around and play cards, talk about your health problems, bitch about the government, sleep afternoons. Florida will be packed.
First, work hard, put money into long term investments. Then enjoy 2,900yrs of retirement living, each day you sit around and play cards, talk about your health problems, bitch about the government, sleep afternoons. Florida will be packed.
The 3000 year figure is as surprising as it is fascinating. Meaning that in western industrialized countries the leading causes of death are by far old age and disease. Accidents, murder, war, suicide must account for a very small percentage of deaths. 200-300 year life span one might expect. 3000 is amazing.
If that became a normal lifespan, a lot of changes would need to happen. Do I have to work until I'm 2250 years old to retire? Yikes! If we averaged 3000 years would we become much more cautious and safe, pushing our lifespans out to 5000 years? Or would be get wild and crazy after age 1500? 😀
If that became a normal lifespan, a lot of changes would need to happen. Do I have to work until I'm 2250 years old to retire? Yikes! If we averaged 3000 years would we become much more cautious and safe, pushing our lifespans out to 5000 years? Or would be get wild and crazy after age 1500? 😀
Do I have to work until I'm 2250 years old to retire?
Your math is way off. You'd have to work until you were 2980 years old.😀
Social Security retirement ages are going to have to be reworked.
Social Security would no longer exist. One would be expected to make more off investment income than they ever did from a salary after say 600 years. If you could ever stand working for 600 years without it killing you in the process.
What would you do if you lived to 3000?

Shouldn't the title reflect that number?The surprising answer came from life insurance actuarials: about 3000 years. That is the average life expectancy in our part of the world, based on only accidents, suicide, murders, that sort of thing.

I thought this thread is if that doesn't happen.Then you see them deteriorate to the mental capacity of children;

Imagine the collection of ‘lifers’ prisons would accumulate 😱
There is a scifi novel that covers this. To start with there was very little crime as the police can chase you forever. Secondly the worst thing to this race was boredom so the capital punishment was to isolate the villain with all that was needed to live but with no hope of contact with the rest of the species and all that went with it.
I knew a kid with a cochlear implant. I’ve read of neural tissue being grown in a laboratory. It is within possibility that an ‘adjunct’ brain could be developed and implanted. Your conscience could begin to inhabit both. Advancements in brain/computer interface might well cause conscientiousness to leave the old brain behind. As one neared death your second brain might then be implanted in a clone. We might be one of the last generations that will die.
This.
Also from that thread:
You can live to be a hundred if you give up all the things that make you want to live to be a hundred.
Jan, even though it doesn't really answer your question, as you speak Dutch, you really should look up Mark Retera's comic about Dirknan de Barbaar (part of the Dirkjan series, can be found on the Internet).
I knew a kid with a cochlear implant. I’ve read of neural tissue being grown in a laboratory. It is within possibility that an ‘adjunct’ brain could be developed and implanted. Your conscience could begin to inhabit both. Advancements in brain/computer interface might well cause conscientiousness to leave the old brain behind. As one neared death your second brain might then be implanted in a clone. We might be one of the last generations that will die.
In the British TV series Years and Years, there is this teenage girl who wants to become trans. Her parents think she means transsexual and explain to her that they are OK with that, but actually she means transhuman: she wants her consciousness to be put into a computer.
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