That's why that post has "very risky" on the bottom of it.What happens if the competition advertises the living hell out of the original company?
It's not sustainable on the long run, unless investors have VERY deep pockets and a extremely long term vision.
Except for the surround they don't have new technologies (and even that is only a design patent)While Purifi actually has some new technologies
All technologies they use are already known for decades.
One of the reason why there are no patents on them.
Maybe the combination of technologies is different, but that is a different story.
Come on now!...are we in kindergarten or?I am not familiar with that concept. I don't think Steve Jobs was either.
Most people know what a hype is & Steve Jobs knew that very well too.
Rich enough....Concept?
We have an expression in Sweden that is difficult to translate, but I try.
"It's not hard to **** when the *** is full of it" 😉
Re: Purifi - 100% agree. I used "technology" loosely. Basically they have a drivers that are DIFFERENTIATED from others. But so do other manufacturers, Revelator sliced cone cones to mind.
About Beats by Dr. Dre....if my memory serves me, they were pretty unique looking (in particular appealing to younger crowd) and had to much bass (particularly appealing to a younger crowd). Nowadays there are a lot that have borrowed from that original Beats look. Or am I completely mis-remembering?
About Beats by Dr. Dre....if my memory serves me, they were pretty unique looking (in particular appealing to younger crowd) and had to much bass (particularly appealing to a younger crowd). Nowadays there are a lot that have borrowed from that original Beats look. Or am I completely mis-remembering?
To be fair, you are in one of those Nordic countries that does well in happiness surveys. I'm in the US where we just want to pay less taxes and earn more income and end up less happy than when we started. 🤔Come on now!...
To be fair, they do have a few patents, and NOT just about the surround.Except for the surround they don't have new technologies (and even that is only a design patent)
All technologies they use are already known for decades.
One of the reason why there are no patents on them.
Maybe the combination of technologies is different, but that is a different story.
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/purifi-aps
That is not counting other patent assign to Bruno, Lars, Carsten etc not to Purifi directly eg:
LOUDSPEAKER MOTOR WITH INNER PERMANENT MAGNET
LOUDSPEAKER WITH A NON-UNIFORM SUSPENSION AND AN ENFORCEMENT ELEMENT
LOUDSPEAKER MOTOR WITH IMPROVED LINEARITY
Double Voice Coil Loudspeaker Transducer Unit
They also have some patents assign to Dali and other Lyngdorf group.
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But 4 x price a desent/good other one?...clearly doubtful for meo be fair, they do have a few patents, and NOT just about the surround.
It's always harder and more expensive to be a pioneer or to push the limits.But 4 x price
Happens relatively rarely (i think), when you enter a branch with a specific product. They have calculated carefully many times before and secured money through investors.What happens if the competition advertises the living hell out of the original company?
Did you know all 3 companys was founded in 1886?Proctor and Gamble 10.7%I haven´t check
Nestle 2.7%
Coca Cola 6%
https://www.nestle.com/about/history/nestle-company-history
https://us.pg.com/pg-history/#revolutionary
https://www.coca-colacompany.com/about-us/history
Not strange they all had some advantage to grow....
Think its more about keeping the market shares nowadays.
PS! I haven¨t look up the other companies
Thanks and in that case I stand to be corrected 🙂To be fair, they do have a few patents, and NOT just about the surround.
https://patents.justia.com/assignee/purifi-aps
That is not counting other patent assign to Bruno, Lars, Carsten etc not to Purifi directly eg:
LOUDSPEAKER MOTOR WITH INNER PERMANENT MAGNET
LOUDSPEAKER WITH A NON-UNIFORM SUSPENSION AND AN ENFORCEMENT ELEMENT
LOUDSPEAKER MOTOR WITH IMPROVED LINEARITY
Double Voice Coil Loudspeaker Transducer Unit
They also have some patents assign to Dali and other Lyngdorf group.
My apologies!
Interesting, because a couple of these ideas are decades old........
True that, some date back to 1975. Hence, I have the utmost respect for their work. It seems they are genuinely trying to push the boundaries much further, which is something that needed to happen. The brain trust of this company is impressive! IMHO
You are totaly wrong here, and im sorry if i expressed myself so that you perceived me as such.Beside your obvious angriness towards money consideration
I am happy to pay a little more for a better product, but not automatically, but I read about the product & compare with the market.
For me, this philosophy applies to pretty much everything, food, houses, cars, cleaning products and so on.
But you are a little right that I don't like concepts "money" anymore.....
It have take over ethics & morals and is creating unreasonable expectations for investors & bigger & bigger divides in society.
Which in turn increases "poverty" & at the same time creates more criminals & greater insecurity for citizens.
Completly of topic, but i wanted to explain myself
Seems to be a big problem these days, especially with things like furniture or contractors/handyman.I am happy to pay a little more for a better product, but not automatically
I am happy to spend more for quality, but often it's just more for the same but rebranded crap. 🙁 🙁
Is that a type of phase plug?"slim margarine."
Speaking of expensive drivers!
Googling brings up pics with that rounded lower case "b" on the cans, apparently that's what buyers/wearers wanted others to see. I recall discussion on Beats headphones way back, probably here on diyaudio, Beats sold in the $300 range though better sounding headphones were and are available from traditional makers in the $100 range. It was such a triumph of marketing over technology that:About Beats by Dr. Dre....if my memory serves me, they were pretty unique looking (in particular appealing to younger crowd) and had to much bass (particularly appealing to a younger crowd). Nowadays there are a lot that have borrowed from that original Beats look. Or am I completely mis-remembering?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beats_ElectronicsOn August 1, 2014, Apple acquired Beats for $3 billion in a cash and stock deal, the largest acquisition in Apple's history.
It's actually worse.It's quite naive to think that the material cost for a consumer product dictates the selling price. Rather, it's the consumer that dictates the price. Yes, it really is... vendors tries a high one and if it works, there you go...
I have to find the title of the book again (if people are interested let me know).
But it basically describes why certain things catch on and others don't.
That book describes a couple of stories, one story is about someone trying to sell a very unique medical device.
He couldn't sell it at all, which was weird because his solution actually really solved problems and there was basically no competition.
Until someone suggested him to triple the selling price.
Although he didn't want to do it, he tried anyway and all of a sudden way more companies were interested.
Goes to show how ingrained higher price = higher quality is.
In this case it was the exact same product.
Is there proof, that the tripling of the selling price is responsible for the increase in interest? There are a lot of other aspects at play. Especially if "companies were interested". A company developes or markets a product. That involves cost. Some inventor might offer a technology that is five steps ahead and just needs to be brought to level were it can be produced in numbers. What will happen? A company that has a production line set up for their current technology might acquire the patent, but not produce the "better" product before at least the cost for development and set up are back in and the capital for setting up a new production facility and marketing is in. If at all.
^ This!It's quite naive to think that the material cost for a consumer product dictates the selling price. Rather, it's the consumer that dictates the price. Yes, it really is... vendors tries a high one and if it works, there you go...
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I said this earlier.
Just ask what makes people (in general) be willing to pay more for something.
That's what truly drives the cost. The seller just gets what they think they can get. If buyers won't pay enough (don't perceive enough value at the cost), then the product doesn't last long.
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