I disagree. What does "evangelical in approach " even mean?
There are varying degrees of opinion on the "tech side". Some are more knowledgeable technically than others. Some are more snarky than others. Some are more patient than others.
On the other hand it's the same with the subjectivists. Some get very aggressive if you question their claims. Some think cable connectors can change the sound. There seems to be no limits for some people, they can hear differences with anything
If you're in the middle I tend to think you haven't really understood the established science enough.
A lot of audiophile forums try to stamp out objectivism as it upsets the subjectivists. Which means subjectivism is tolerated more in the community than it perhaps should be.
Many aspects of life are subjective and you can expect this to apply. You wouldn't go around telling just anyone about what you feel they do wrong in their lives, and it doesn't mean they're snarky....
A lot of mileading stuff over there, very rigid with little to no room for the nuances.
Very, very few worth watching, at least from the sample set i have seen.
dave
Music is subjective. Whether something changes a sound audibly or not is not subjective.
If you stay on ASR long enough you'll find there is a lot of discussion of "nuances". There's a very long thread on inter-sample overs which has been running for a year or so. It depends what you consider a "nuance" really. Cables? No, they're not really a nuance, are they?
The ASR videos on YouTube are excellent though and very informative. As are the Audioholics ones on cables.
Yes. Sometimes I get challenged when it seems I look too much at measurements, and I don't always have the chance to tell the other side.
I mean, voicing a speaker is subjective, EQing specific tracks is subjective and so is deciding when issues you're trying to EQ can't successfully be EQed. This is where it gets complicated. We can't always tell, though sometimes we can, just what causes a problem until we look a little deeper.
I’ve been on shows where people will pay good money for this stuff and the host will say ‘wow, you hear that! Incredible’. Ditto £500 cables but if you ask for £2800 for a 100W integrated amp they balk. Funny thing is, a lot of these people have relatively cheap systems. Bit like the Bybee balonium thing. Why not spend your money on something decent that sounds great and will last 20 yrs. beats me.
BTW some of these ‘audio grounding boxes’ go for much more than the one shown above.
Such is the nature of audio.
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Well voicing a speaker is subjective in that the sound you end up with is presumably one that you are happy with. But speakers are not designed by ear. Nowadays we can measure speaker response in a very detailed way and we know what tends to sound good and what does not.
Well, that's what they say... Maybe I don't have that much luck.
Point is though they are making it subjective themselves by refusing to understand the science behind cables etc and refusing to accept measurements that show no signal difference quite clearly.
Absolutely, however subjectivists rarely consider the psychological aspect of doing AB comparisons, or rarely take it seriously. This is far and away the biggest thing which is overlooked, especially when it comes to cables. Someone posted the grounding box earlier. There's no reason for that to be any more ridiculous than expensive Audioquest or Nordost cables. Yet we feel free to laugh at one but laughing at the other is frowned upon. It's the same psychological effects at play with both from a listening perspective.
Yet, it is so easy to DIY your own grounding box!
- Obtain an empty wooden wine box. The type with a slide off lid is convenient and the greater the bottle capacity the better.
- Remove any internal partitions and line the box with a large foil turkey roasting tray.
- Mount one or more 4mm sockets on the side of the box so that they connect internally to the roasting tray.
- Fill the box with a mix of mineral crystals and kiln dried sand.
Why we need to put attention to those Companies? Here is diyaudio, we can make cables, groundbox,… for ourselves.
I tend to judge a company by the quality and completeness of their datasheets...
Remember the Bybee story from a few years back 😆
. . . and of course, herein lies how the Bybees work.
The resistor heats up as current flows through it. This in turn activates the catalytic coating on the foil. The coating itself (more about this later) is mined from the dunes in the south polar region of Mars through a confidential process known only to Bybee, the CIA and NASA who've been conducting secret robotic operations on the Red planet for the last 30 years (NASA explorer missions were simply undertaken as a diversion it should be noted). This secret ingredient i.e. element, is called Bybeelonium - it has NOT been added yet to the periodic table as it is classified (up until me making it public on this forum, at great personal risk I might add). It should be noted that this material was originally going to be called Martianolonium, but the CIA leadership team, with the full backing of Lyndon B. Johnson and all subsequent Presidents, insisted it be confidentially named in honour of its discover's theoretical predictions about its fundamental properties, which have I understand been proven correct, but the details as you will fully understand remain classified at this point.
The unique property of Bybeelonium (also called 'Baloneyium' for short) is that it can clearly distinguish the difference between non-asynchronous, non-random information (so-called 'high-end music') and G-R noise. The G-R noise interacts with Bybeelonium's upper valence bands only, absorbing random energy fluctuations, which in turn further heat the core 25mOhm 'catalytic activator' resistor and further activate the aforementioned catalytic coating in a so-called 'virtuous noise reduction cycle ('VNRC'). The result is noise reduction that cannot be measured by any known instrumentation (and of course, thus not detectable by the enemy), but will deliver airy highs to any modern audio system whilst simultaneously blocking enemy noise bot attacks. It should be noted that the prime reason for the product's development in the first place was to secure America's - and the West's in general - digital systems infrastructure from malevolent digital forces ('MDF' in CIA parlance). That it came to be available to the music and high-end fraternity simply speaks volumes about the USA government's commitment to the arts and art appreciation.
Unfortunately, Bybeelonium has been shown not to trap 1/f noise, but ongoing CIA and NASA funded research points to a possible breakthrough in this area of investigation. Bybee was awarded the Nobel prize for Physics for his discovery in 1969, but the offer and announcement were intercepted by the CIA and the prize diverted to Murray Gell-Mann instead in order to maintain secrecy. Naturally, under the threat of being expelled from NATO, the Norwegian authorities capitulated, and the rest is history. In the spirit of truthfulness, transparency and for the good of all mankind, hopefully with this public announcement (again, made at great risk by this writer), the authorities will see fit to retract Gel-Mann's Nobel award and transfer to its rightful recipient in the coming months.
Clearly, in releasing this information, this writer has taken great risk, and no doubt incurred the ire of the US government and in all likelihood will face prosecutorial action from the CIA and other as unnamed Western government agencies. However, it is important that in these matters, the truth prevails.
. . . and of course, herein lies how the Bybees work.
The resistor heats up as current flows through it. This in turn activates the catalytic coating on the foil. The coating itself (more about this later) is mined from the dunes in the south polar region of Mars through a confidential process known only to Bybee, the CIA and NASA who've been conducting secret robotic operations on the Red planet for the last 30 years (NASA explorer missions were simply undertaken as a diversion it should be noted). This secret ingredient i.e. element, is called Bybeelonium - it has NOT been added yet to the periodic table as it is classified (up until me making it public on this forum, at great personal risk I might add). It should be noted that this material was originally going to be called Martianolonium, but the CIA leadership team, with the full backing of Lyndon B. Johnson and all subsequent Presidents, insisted it be confidentially named in honour of its discover's theoretical predictions about its fundamental properties, which have I understand been proven correct, but the details as you will fully understand remain classified at this point.
The unique property of Bybeelonium (also called 'Baloneyium' for short) is that it can clearly distinguish the difference between non-asynchronous, non-random information (so-called 'high-end music') and G-R noise. The G-R noise interacts with Bybeelonium's upper valence bands only, absorbing random energy fluctuations, which in turn further heat the core 25mOhm 'catalytic activator' resistor and further activate the aforementioned catalytic coating in a so-called 'virtuous noise reduction cycle ('VNRC'). The result is noise reduction that cannot be measured by any known instrumentation (and of course, thus not detectable by the enemy), but will deliver airy highs to any modern audio system whilst simultaneously blocking enemy noise bot attacks. It should be noted that the prime reason for the product's development in the first place was to secure America's - and the West's in general - digital systems infrastructure from malevolent digital forces ('MDF' in CIA parlance). That it came to be available to the music and high-end fraternity simply speaks volumes about the USA government's commitment to the arts and art appreciation.
Unfortunately, Bybeelonium has been shown not to trap 1/f noise, but ongoing CIA and NASA funded research points to a possible breakthrough in this area of investigation. Bybee was awarded the Nobel prize for Physics for his discovery in 1969, but the offer and announcement were intercepted by the CIA and the prize diverted to Murray Gell-Mann instead in order to maintain secrecy. Naturally, under the threat of being expelled from NATO, the Norwegian authorities capitulated, and the rest is history. In the spirit of truthfulness, transparency and for the good of all mankind, hopefully with this public announcement (again, made at great risk by this writer), the authorities will see fit to retract Gel-Mann's Nobel award and transfer to its rightful recipient in the coming months.
Clearly, in releasing this information, this writer has taken great risk, and no doubt incurred the ire of the US government and in all likelihood will face prosecutorial action from the CIA and other as unnamed Western government agencies. However, it is important that in these matters, the truth prevails.
The quote "People would generally be better off if they believed in too much rather than too little" is attributed to Thomas Robert Malthus.
Malthus is also quoted as saying "It is an acknowledged truth in philosophy that a just theory will always be confirmed by experiment".
Malthus is also quoted as saying "It is an acknowledged truth in philosophy that a just theory will always be confirmed by experiment".
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