Agree totally that that's the criteria for the amp's quality - its 'drawing in power'. I have the same criteria for books and movies - the ability to induce the flow state (from https://www.amazon.com/Flow-Psychol...eywords=flow+psychology+of+optimal+experience)
Isn't it?!
Just listen man!!!
Either you're involved in the music... or you're not.......
You were quoting me right out of context. My answer was on Sottomano's, where he tried to draw double blinded tests to ridiculousness. At least I've interpreted it this way and felt that it has to be corrected.
Do you allow me to have quite another approach to music? Let me try to explain: I don't listen to music just because I like it, instead I prefer music that is good in terms of intelligent composition (e.g. by using complex rhythms, frequent changes in tempo, counterpoint, polyrhythm, polymeters, complex lyrics etc.) and interpretation, measured by skills on instruments and/or vocals. In short: Music that gets right into my brain and challenges my mind. Commercial music that just satisfies most peoples demands is quite out of scope for me.
To their second Album "Acquiring The Taste", British band Gentle Giant wrote the following sleeve note:
"It is our goal to expand the frontiers of contemporary music at the risk of being very unpopular. We have recorded each composition with the one thought - that it should be unique, adventurous and fascinating. It has taken every shred of our combined musical and technical knowledge to achieve this.
From the outset we have abandoned all preconceived thoughts on blatant commercialism. Instead we hope to give you something far more substantial and fulfilling. All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste."
Nothing to add for me. That's just how good music works.
I totally agree with you, it's all about facts. The input signal is a fact that an electroacoustical devices, or a chain of devices, has to see as a fact, i.e. to amplify and reproduce it without adding anything strange. The ideal electroacoustic device mustn't have any sound - unless it is part of a musical Instrument itself. We're still in search of this ideal, I have to admit.
To be honest, the "alternative facts" were a little pun of mine on Fakebook and on your new Mr President
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Yeah, he's been the man!
I'm so glad that i had the chance to see him performing at least once, while he was on his Broadway The Hard Way tour in 1988. What an experience!
Best regards!
That makes two of us that remember the topic of this Thread.Ok, so what's the best amp??
As yet stated multiple times and by many contributors here, there's hardly any valid answer to Wikkid's question. That is what seduced me to my post #12, and might have seduced wintermute to his post #35 .
It has been shown that he, e.g., has quite another point of view (a more emotional one) on music than me, e.g. - which has to be well respected, anyway. So he perhaps might have a glance into the Naim thread? These amplifiers are clearly based on old RCA designs, but modified in a certain way to add even order harmonics and to increase dynamic output impedance. Adding the fact that the Naim customers observed some lock-in phenomenon (they also had to buy Naim cables and Naim speakers to get 'that Naim sound'), this certainly isn't the way I'd want to go.
OTOH, speaking of 'DIYLaboratory': German Audio designer Dieter Burmester, who sadly passed away in 2015, has derived his amplifier designs from medical laboratory equipment indeed, and manufactured according to those standards. And his gear still receives outstanding reputation (and was priced outstandingly, btw.).
Perhaps Wikkid some time gets the chance to listen to music through a Burmester amp and might want to tell us how he feels afterwards?
Best regards!
.It has been shown that he, e.g., has quite another point of view (a more emotional one) on music than me, e.g. - which has to be well respected, anyway. So he perhaps might have a glance into the Naim thread? These amplifiers are clearly based on old RCA designs, but modified in a certain way to add even order harmonics and to increase dynamic output impedance. Adding the fact that the Naim customers observed some lock-in phenomenon (they also had to buy Naim cables and Naim speakers to get 'that Naim sound'), this certainly isn't the way I'd want to go.
OTOH, speaking of 'DIYLaboratory': German Audio designer Dieter Burmester, who sadly passed away in 2015, has derived his amplifier designs from medical laboratory equipment indeed, and manufactured according to those standards. And his gear still receives outstanding reputation (and was priced outstandingly, btw.).
Perhaps Wikkid some time gets the chance to listen to music through a Burmester amp and might want to tell us how he feels afterwards?
Best regards!
OTOH, speaking of 'DIYLaboratory': German Audio designer Dieter Burmester, who sadly passed away in 2015, has derived his amplifier designs from medical laboratory equipment indeed, and manufactured according to those standards. And his gear still receives outstanding reputation (and was priced outstandingly, btw.).
Were they power op amps? They appeal to me because they use one of the most powerful tools known to science.............
Were they power op amps? They appeal to me because they use one of the most powerful tools known to science.............
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