What happened since the great old days?

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"Bela Lugosi is dead
I'm dead, I'm dead"

I absolutely love that track – by (Google reminded me) Bauhaus. Other than that I wasn’t a Bauhaus fan.

I have a great (to me at least) early 80s compilation called “Raging 80s”.

Is there a good art rock/ Goth compilation anyone knows of?
 
Why did it all go so horribly wrong?

This is a visual age :xeye:

Our grand-fathers grew up listening to great opera singers singing popular songs (I'm not talking here Pavarotti's or Domingo's but real great singers) so their ears were educated. Even popular singers had PRIDE and tried their best to improve the emission of sound. The larinx is our instrument, the one that let your spirit be expressed. If one's spirit is ugly so will be our singing :angel:

Sorry guys, I'm a "classical" lover, BUT, there's one group that I really find to be the optimum:
-Van der Graaf Generator-😎
I could hear these guys forever.
Very underestimated I think, appart UK 😡

Regards
Mauricio
 
There are still a few good new artists about. John Mayer comes to mind. Good poet, hell of a guitar player, likes to experiment. Witness his latest blues trio, some of those shows were really smoking, there will be a live album shortly. Jack Johnson is another independent thinker.

I too have given up the popular scene pretty much and lament the loss. I find myself more and more downloading the live stuff via etree.org. There is some truly great stuff to be had there, some old some new.

My teenage sons are into the local music scene both going to shows and their own bands. They too don't have much good to say about what can be found at Wall Mart, etc. I beleive this looks good for the future. it sorta reminds me of the garage bands in my area in the 60's.
 
There's a saying:
"better to be a good replica, than a lousy original"

I belive that sums up todays popular music scene.

to find the new, fres and creative of today,one has to look away from the pop genere, or poular music altogether.

i could offcource nemption bands like crüder&dorthmeiseter, Red Harvest, Gorgoroth, Clandestine Blaze and so on, but i think most people arn't capable to deal with that type of music, and the thoughts behind it.

todays classics, were yesterdays mainstream. we could have had this exact discussion 30 years ago.
yesterdays underground\sidestream is what has made todays mainstream, that we now bash.

looking forward to having this discussion in a nother 30 years.

-Marius
 
earsandeyes said:
"shaved her legs and then he was a she"

Yes!!!😀 😀 😀
It's brilliant.

earsandeyes said:
the apples that fell from the Velvet Underground tree are all still enjoyable. most of them still alive and kicking. the only one that did not survived the life of drugs and R&R was Andy W. himself.

That's right.
Lou Reed, John Cale, great artists, great music.
And that girl Nico, with a wonderful (and different) voice. Died in a stupid accident...

earsandeyes, see what you done?
The vice just returned, I'll scavenge all their albums tonight and listen.
Compulsively.
Your fault! 😎
 
Me too, I am listening to Lou Reed's New York from 1989, what a fine album. If I remember correctly, in an interview he was going on about just using the instruments and amps, no other electronics, synths, whathave you. Just musicians and their instruments. Pretty cool.


What is XM/Sirius ?

They are satellite radio, fee based services.
 
Perhaps it is not available in OZ - XM/Sirius is sattelite radio. 100+ channels, all styles of music, and commercial free. Also - independent content. Even a channel for unsigned bands. I've heard so many bands/tunes not played on FM. Monthly fee about $13. MP3+ quality. Yes, I work for Delphi but not the XM Part. Wish I was getting paid for this.
 
she died indeed, on a bicycle on Ibiza. I could not resist to do some googling.

made me spinning songs for drella, Cale & Reed (1990) in a strange co-existence with the ultimate respect for Andy Warhol ("like in HOLES", cannot recall now what that album was)

e&e
 
earsandeyes said:
she died indeed, on a bicycle on Ibiza. I could not resist to do some googling.

Yes, that's what I meant with 'stupid accident'.
Just like Jeff Buckley, who drowned swimming on the Mississipy. :xeye:

Just listening now to a live album, a celebration.
'Live MCMXCIII', from 1993.

With Lou Reed, John Cale, Moe Tucker and Sterling Morrison.

'We're gonna have a real good time toguether'. :eguitar:

:cheerful:
 
carlosfm said:
And that girl Nico, with a wonderful (and different) voice. Died in a stupid accident...

One of my favourite songs of all time is Nico's version of Jackson Brown's 'These Days'. His version is good, but her's is so much more, and with that voice...

One of the better bands around today, who I think people will still be listening to in 20-30 years time, is Belle & Sebastian. They are comparable with all the greats, in terms of lyrical content, tunes, charisma, timelessness, great sleeves, etc, all the important things.
 
Music fits the needs of the people at the time it is produced. Today with cable television and established media monopolies and such overlap of cultures as results of things liek cable and internet, we have the same genres practically spread across the planet, because this modern society makes it so easy to think like 1 billion other people out there. I think thats why the comercial dance rap and r&b is so popular (along with a couple otehr genres i dont really care to discuss.) I think, however, that as much as people unify and are set up to be lumped, there are people that break off and develop needs that are more complicated, and as long as people have psychological and social needs, there will be those that develop genres that cater to them. I am a techno dj, and i have been following techno since i was little and got the CDs at store. I now have hundreds of records dating from 80s to a couple weeks ago and i sorta have fun trying to compare music to cultural trends in the countries of their origins at the time of their release.

people jsut copy each otehr now in practically every genre, and people striving to sound different wind up making beats so ridiculous taht my ears just want to vomit them back out again by sheer crappiness, modern day rap a perfect example.

Where am i going with this? really nowhere in particular, but what i am gonna say is that as long as people evolve, there will be music that fits their needs and they will find it. I follow a lot of ambient and IDM now because i believe that is a very very promising frontier. Also look into the post rock movement, with artists such as "godspeed! ye black emporers." There are some modern day artists and bands that are very much original and captivating sounds, its jsut a matter of personal oppinion however.
 
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