What does "Timber Accuracy" mean?

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any idea? what does it mean to you when you read "the timbre accuracy of the amplifier is good" ... I know what does it mean but I want others ideas and definitions...
any input devastatingly appreciated 😉
 
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It means that the frequency response of the amplifier is correct and accurate.

Put another way instruments sound like the real thing, birds sound like birds singing and a player of a piano can tell if its a grand piano..the acoustics sound like the room they were recorded in..not distorted so they sound like something close to the real thing..

Fun link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbre

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M. Gregg
 
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I haven't seen an amplifier (except a tiny minority of bizarrely priced fetish pieces) with other than a flat frequency response since maybe 1975. The "timbre accuracy" (there is a big difference between timber and timbre!) thing is purely hifi magazine nonsense.
 
It means that the frequency response of the amplifier is correct and accurate.

Put another way instruments sound like the real thing, birds sound like birds singing and a player of a piano can tell if its a grand piano..the acoustics sound like the room they were recorded in..not distorted so they sound like something close to the real thing..

Fun link:

Timbre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
M. Gregg

that's what I'm looking for... to me Timber Accuracy means that amplifier is so accurate (efficient?) and the rise time and settle time and frequency range is as it would be in Hi-Fi... it mean amplifier is as much accurate as audiophile (or speaker or even whole system) demands... something like this
 
The problem with this is frequency response of the measured amplifier and
perceived accuracy "timbre" are not the same...It requires a wide frequency range and the match between the equipment to create it.
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M. Gregg
 
It means the sound is rather wooden.
HA HA HA! (get it, timber)

Probably not what the reviewer meant, but I believe its a lack of harmonic distortion (and to some degree intermod distortion). From wikipedia "In simple terms, timbre is what makes a particular musical sound different from another, even when they have the same pitch and loudness." (A flute playing middle A compared to a trumpet). Which is all in the harmonics. Change the harmonics balance you change the timbre. Any good amp (less than) .05% thd will be timbre accurate. Maybe even less considering the large timbre changes in the same instrument from playing styles, and movement. (blow a flute hard it puts out a huge amount more harmonics, same when a trombone points right at you. So that the reviewer knows what is accurate is rubish.
 
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HA HA HA! (get it, timber)

Probably not what the reviewer meant, but I believe its a lack of harmonic distortion (and to some degree intermod distortion). From wikipedia "In simple terms, timbre is what makes a particular musical sound different from another, even when they have the same pitch and loudness." Which is all in the harmonics. Change the harmonics balance you change the timbre. Any good amp (less than) .05% thd will be timbre accurate.

so any amplifier with THD less than 0.05% is timbre accurate? does it have something to do with "Rise Time"and "settle time" of amplifier?
 
There is more to it than amplifier distortion..
And a perfect amp might not create perceived Timbre...Sound stage etc can have an effect..and harmonic content..

This one of the hardest things to achieve...and to reproduce it across a wide range of music styles is very hard to achieve.

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M. Gregg
 
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And a perfect amp might not create percieved Timbre

What does that mean? You like your amps to change the signal? Timbre is the harmonic content of the signal, if you recreate that, your timbre accurate, if you change the harmonic content (balance) you are distorting the signal. Why do people have to read so much extra in simple concepts.
 
Because its the synergy of the total system not just one part, and the match between the components have to compensate for loss or gain in each part.
An amplifier without speakers is not a HIFI..and components are not all accurate.

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M. Gregg
 
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The ability to drive a set of speakers and damping will all effect the perceived timbre..Its a case that they have to match each other..Just putting any speaker with any amp may or may not create the desired effect..note I say effect...Its got to the hardest thing to do and get right across a wide range of music content. And people will pay megga bucks to "try" and get it correct...Its the audiophile rabbit hole..

I have listened to systems that sound like someone playing a guitar in another room and was shocked to find a hifi and not a person..It has only happend on very few occasions..

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M. gregg
 
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Because its the synergy of the total system not just one part, and the match between the components have to compensate for loss or gain in each part.

Thats what some of the powered speakers do (usually with DSP) but nobody builds stand alone amps like that, and thats what we are talking bout isnt it?
 
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