Honest opinion......
What would you think about a college graduate, good home life/family, with a decent job, and in their 30's, who has never ever heard of Patsy Cline?
What would you think about a college graduate, good home life/family, with a decent job, and in their 30's, who has never ever heard of Patsy Cline?
Nothing really...
I'm 44 and I've heard of her, but I don't like country music.
Now if you said they had never heard of Snoop Dogg? Different story there.
OTOH, I know of people younger than that who've heard of Pachelbel... Some music is just more timeless than other types, right?
I'm 44 and I've heard of her, but I don't like country music.
Now if you said they had never heard of Snoop Dogg? Different story there.
OTOH, I know of people younger than that who've heard of Pachelbel... Some music is just more timeless than other types, right?
The late George Harrison was being interviewed on Michael Aspel in 1985 or so and said that someone had pointed to him in the street and said "there's that singer"!
"Which I thought was pretty good", said George.
So, who knows how many people have never heard of The Beatles?!
Geoff
"Which I thought was pretty good", said George.
So, who knows how many people have never heard of The Beatles?!
Geoff
It is all in what people were exposed to up to this point in their life. Some people grew up in a world where music was important and others where it was something in the background.
I know there are some artists that were really influential on music and thus are important in the history of music, but that doesn't mean I have to like their music, study them or even really know anything about them. This is entertainment, not a class with a test at the end.
Also, my feeling is if you are really, deeply into something then when you come across someone that isn't familiar with it, share it with them; don't judge them.
Although, show me a modern singer that has no idea who those people from the past were and that is another story...
I know there are some artists that were really influential on music and thus are important in the history of music, but that doesn't mean I have to like their music, study them or even really know anything about them. This is entertainment, not a class with a test at the end.
Also, my feeling is if you are really, deeply into something then when you come across someone that isn't familiar with it, share it with them; don't judge them.
Although, show me a modern singer that has no idea who those people from the past were and that is another story...
When I was in my 30s I had certainly heard of Patsy Cline but didn't give her a second thought. My musical tastes were far from matured.
Now I love country music! I used to think Johnny Cash was corny. Now I see Johnny Cash as an artist that continued to improve his music right up to his last breath. I deeply respect him and greatly enjoy his music.
Country and blues are uniquely American. They are the roots of rock and jazz. I grew up on rock and jazz and got into classical in college. Now I listen back, way back to the roots music and I hear a lot of the hits I grew up on and loved (especially by Zeppelin and Foghat).
Now I love country music! I used to think Johnny Cash was corny. Now I see Johnny Cash as an artist that continued to improve his music right up to his last breath. I deeply respect him and greatly enjoy his music.
Country and blues are uniquely American. They are the roots of rock and jazz. I grew up on rock and jazz and got into classical in college. Now I listen back, way back to the roots music and I hear a lot of the hits I grew up on and loved (especially by Zeppelin and Foghat).
No he didn't! Corny as it gets!! Right to the end!
Now having said that, I have lots of his stuff. He's great. Patsy? meh.
Best country style would be by the likes of Kristofferson or Rory Block, or the crew on Will the Circle be Unbroken. Quintessentially Hank Williams.
The person I spoke about above said the SAME thing to me. "I'm not into country music"
And as for preferences, I never asked for them, nor is it important here.
Besides, Patsy Cline was NOT a dead-set Country singer.
Yes, she did sing some classic country music..... BUT......
She was a crossover/pop singer in fact.
But her roots in Winchester Va and that "backwoods" area seem to have labeled her.
Just like the Technics SL-1200's were falsely labeled as "DJ" machines.
It's just very odd that... Patsy Cline has a huge following, world-wide fame, has spawned a whole new clan of female singers, She's had several movies and documentries already.
Surely someone in that college this person attended must have heard of Cline.
Her single "Crazy" has been in every jukebox across the country and even overseas.
Yet, this person never heard the song?
Must have been living in a cave or under a rock.
Besides jukeboxes,
Must be countless films with that song in it.
But, it doesn't surprise me either.
I eat and breath music, so I'm probably aware of many older artist.
I use to collect 78's so lots of oddity's in that realm.
Many people just dont know music.
Or some guys dont pay attention to female favorites.
Patsy Cline is still a influence on younger singers.
Youd be crazy to try and date a artsy girl without
a Patsy Cline record laying around.
Must be countless films with that song in it.
But, it doesn't surprise me either.
I eat and breath music, so I'm probably aware of many older artist.
I use to collect 78's so lots of oddity's in that realm.
Many people just dont know music.
Or some guys dont pay attention to female favorites.
Patsy Cline is still a influence on younger singers.
Youd be crazy to try and date a artsy girl without
a Patsy Cline record laying around.
I'm two months short of 70 years old, graduated from college twice, was born and lived far south of the Mason Dixon line of parents from Georgia and Tennessee. I have heard the name Patsy Cline but know nothing of her music and wouldn't recognize it if it was playing on the radio. Play me a few seconds of something that flowed from a Miami pop music station from the late 50's until the early 70's and I can usually tell you the song title, who sang it, and roughly what year it was popular. That also goes for about anything called classic rock or prog rock.
As stated it's usually dictated by what you were exposed to, especially in your formative years. I played guitar quite often from age 6 to 40 something and was in a couple "garage bands" over the years. Four or five guys playing music together can focus your scope down to a rather narrow range of music. For two years in the early 70's I worked as a repair tech in a store next to frat house row at the University of Miami during years Pat Metheny and the usually shirtless Jaco Pastorius and many other jazz players were there. This brought jazz and a whole slew of previously unknown guitar chords into my musical scope. Like the surf music we played, most country is also limited to a few boring chords and structures, so I was never very interested in it.
As stated it's usually dictated by what you were exposed to, especially in your formative years. I played guitar quite often from age 6 to 40 something and was in a couple "garage bands" over the years. Four or five guys playing music together can focus your scope down to a rather narrow range of music. For two years in the early 70's I worked as a repair tech in a store next to frat house row at the University of Miami during years Pat Metheny and the usually shirtless Jaco Pastorius and many other jazz players were there. This brought jazz and a whole slew of previously unknown guitar chords into my musical scope. Like the surf music we played, most country is also limited to a few boring chords and structures, so I was never very interested in it.
Patsy WHO????
As of "Blues roots", I´ll borrow a definition which is certainly wider than mine:
" Blues developed in the southern United States after the American Civil War (1861–65). It was influenced by work songs and field hollers, minstrel show music, ragtime, church music, and the folk and popular music of the white population"
As of "Blues roots", I´ll borrow a definition which is certainly wider than mine:
" Blues developed in the southern United States after the American Civil War (1861–65). It was influenced by work songs and field hollers, minstrel show music, ragtime, church music, and the folk and popular music of the white population"
Here's a step towards rock-n-roll from Patsy, circa 1963.
Elvis' Jordanaires for backup, lush strings, that big orchestra sound with a rockin' beat.
Elvis' Jordanaires for backup, lush strings, that big orchestra sound with a rockin' beat.
But is IS important. People don't listen to music they don't like.
I've never heard of the song you mentioned... I guess I live under a rock LMAO
Seriously though. Bing Crosby. Dean Martin. Perry Como. Even Kate Smith. All more popular at the time, right?
And the 1200? Of cource it's a DJ table. Why else would you have that kind of starting torque (1.3kg/S was high at the time) and a pitch slider? 🙂 The fact it makes a great deck for home use is a bonus IMHO.
Do I have one? No. I think they were great in their time, but a modern version like the Reloop RP7000MK2 kill it performance-wise, even if it's made by Hanpin. Is a new 1200 better? Sure. It costs double the money though.
Now go the opposite way - do you know who The Weeknd is?
How about Tony Colman?
And I would be willing to bet that Drake is a much larger "following" than Patsy Cline ever did. But of course that's not important in this context, right?
You're clearly missing the point of my original post.
Plus, you're throwing in your own biases about celebrity singer popularity.
Again, not what I originally posted about.
Typical wandering of posts.
Your mention of this "Drake" and their following is not relevant here.
Besides, Patsy Cline has become an ongoing legend far past the day her plane crashed.
I don't see why you're trying to challenge or argue with my statements.
Most rap artists seem to be drug addicts from slums, with short lived careers.
And their songs are mostly about their experiences, like 'busting a cap in a ho', which means shooting a female.
Not a normal thing, even in gun crazy America.
I very much dislike rap music.
And their songs are mostly about their experiences, like 'busting a cap in a ho', which means shooting a female.
Not a normal thing, even in gun crazy America.
I very much dislike rap music.
I'm not. I just don't see why you think it's a big deal that someone 30 years old hasn't heard of her.
I mention Drake because he's more popular now than Patsy Cline EVER was. That IS relevant to your post, Matt. Why should anyone under the age of 50 have ever heard of Patsy Cline? Why should anyone over the age of 50 have heard of Drake beside seeing the news or having children?
According to Google:
PATSY CLINE sold over 14,595,000 albums, including 14,250,000 in the United States and 320,000 in the United Kingdom.
Drake: With 170 million records sold worldwide, he is among the best-selling music artists in history.
Also, Rap sucks just as hard as country IMHO. Hip hop on the other hand though...
I mention Drake because he's more popular now than Patsy Cline EVER was. That IS relevant to your post, Matt. Why should anyone under the age of 50 have ever heard of Patsy Cline? Why should anyone over the age of 50 have heard of Drake beside seeing the news or having children?
According to Google:
PATSY CLINE sold over 14,595,000 albums, including 14,250,000 in the United States and 320,000 in the United Kingdom.
Drake: With 170 million records sold worldwide, he is among the best-selling music artists in history.
Also, Rap sucks just as hard as country IMHO. Hip hop on the other hand though...
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You're equating music SALES with popularity now.
Your're also defining popularity within current times.
How about 40, 50 years from now, would this Drake be a legend as Patsy has managed to do?
Patsy didn't even have to sell one record for the masses to enjoy her.
Seems like a lotta these current artists often fade into oblivion and burn out, forgotten.
I think so and even more so. Before this thread, I had forgotten she existed to be honest. I had no idea she died in a plane crash, either. Tragic.
I would also say Drake is far more POPULAR than Patsy Cline ever was, although there is far more exposure to music and far more people alive now. Also, most people would equate sales to popularity, no?
Now if this thread was that a 30 year old hadn't heard of Elvis Presley I would actually have been shocked... Or is that also a bad comparison? I meantioned several other people from the era, too.
I would also say Drake is far more POPULAR than Patsy Cline ever was, although there is far more exposure to music and far more people alive now. Also, most people would equate sales to popularity, no?
Now if this thread was that a 30 year old hadn't heard of Elvis Presley I would actually have been shocked... Or is that also a bad comparison? I meantioned several other people from the era, too.