westra box help!

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hi..i am gonna make a loudspeaker with old westra speakers..they are made in germany and nowadays there are many made in china and low end speakers selling in my country..i am happy i find them.i am trying many speakers nowadays.but i couldnt calculate the cabinet diameters with programmes for westra kw200-1316 ..there is -717 liters the result of programme..do you think this parameters are true ?

Belatbarkeit: 70 W-RMS / 120 W-Max
Impedanz: 6 Ohm
Schalldruck: 86 dB
Freuqenzbereich: 30-2000 Hz
Resonanzfrequenz fs: 30 Hz
Gesamtgüte Qts: 0,74
Äquivalentvolumen Vas: 69 l
Einbaumaße:
Außenmaße BxH: 202x202 mm / ø 200 mm
Einbaudurchmesser: 185 mm
Einbautiefe (incl. Korb): 90 mm
Korbrandhöhe: 8,0 mm (incl. Gummiauflage)
Gewicht: 1,1 kg

does anyone have a ready to make box for my westra speakers?..thanks .danke schön 🙂

http://www.hellsound.de/index1.html
 
here is the tweeter i will use . wdt-25-808 .it is very nice sounding silk dome tweeter..
 

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Hi,

Other than a complicated and very big TL you need a stuffed
sealed box. Stuffing will add up to 40% extra effective box
volume. An aperoidic port is also a possible option.

(Or posssibly a big open baffle + some bass EQ)

with Vas = 70L, 50L to 100L is a sensible range.

🙂/sreten.
 

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hi..i made some experiments with my system..and i see that the resonance frequency is 70hz..i used sound card signal generator..when the frequency is reaced to 70hz everything started to shake 🙂 here is the old datasheet for frequency response of the speaker..can we estimate the reliable volume box by using these parameters and graphics.i am using 19liters of water plastic box for trying..and i think i will make 24 liters of sealed box.is it not reliable?i am sorry that i am newbie of designing speaker boxes..and i dont want such a big 50 liters box.can i make a smaller one?.thanks..
 

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umut1001 said:
hey there..can any expert help me ?the volume of the box always negative!! :S

It is giving a negative box volume (Vb) because you have chosen a Qtc < Qts and since Qtc = Qts will calculate a ~infinite Vb you must increase Qtc to 0.741 or higher for it to work properly.

Note too that you must input a reasonably accurate piston diameter and Xmax for it to ~accurately calculate its linear power handling, so measure across ~1/3 of its surround if none of its specs gives it.

GM
 
umut1001 said:
i can make 40 liters of box and put much stuff into it..

Careful! Stuffing to increase apparent Vb is a 'double edged sword', too much and you reduce it:
http://web.archive.org/web/20021007....cyberglobe.net/caraudio/resources/fiberfill/

40 L is a ~1.6 Qtc 'boombox' alignment, so even stuffed to the limit it will still be unacceptably high by most folk's standards, so if it needs to be this small, then the suggested aperiodic (some stuffing plus damped vent) is preferred.

GM
 
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