Vintage Driver Ventilation Improvement

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Personally when i am using a driver with a vented pole piece i will block the hole.
Why? it's true that looser suspension makes the driver impulse response worse and increases the Q factor, but that's not as bad for subwoofer as it is for a mid-range driver.

In the video, the driver looks to be out of control.
dave
That was when the driver was pushed to the max. You are right, it was a little bit out of control but not as much as seen in the video. You may consider the interactions between the camera shooting freq. and the driver freq.

So you strongly recommend not to make any changes to the driver? If so, the only option left in order to prevent the driver from making such noises is to put it in a smaller box, which will decrease its efficiency and low end response. Is there a better Idea? What about a T-line box?
 

The cavity resonance in the hole causes colouration i do not like.

So you strongly recommend not to make any changes to the driver?

I wouldn't. The pleated surround is there to give it better HF performance than a 10 with a rolled surround. I would not try to use it as a sub. It would make a decent woofer for a FAST, but if you need a sub, you should get a sub.

If so, the only option left in order to prevent the driver from making such noises is to put it in a smaller box, which will decrease its efficiency and low end response.

Box size does not really effect efficiency, but it could impact the low frequency extension (do keep in mind that F3 is a useless number from the POV of human hearing, you should be looking at F10 (or F6), althou too big a box will often degrade the quality of the bass.

An ML-TL is likely going to give max LF extension, do you have useful T/S parameters?

dave
 
FWIW I use vented pole pieces in my own speakers, but would never ever create any kind of iron chips anywhere near a voice coil gap, already have enough trouble with unexpected unseen ones.

I ask my lathe operator to drill polepieces while turning them; no big deal because he uses a multi tool lathe, it´s just an extra operation.

Besides cleaning with compressed air, IF any tiny chip remained, it would disappear during the plating operation which includes various boiling water stages, degreasing, pickling in acid, etc.

But on an already magnetized and assembled speaker ... forget it.

OK I got it! I'll never do it.
What about making holes in the cone somewhere under the dust cap? I've seen it in several woofers.
 
I'll measure them. by my multi meter. I think it's accurate enough for this project.

Tedious but probably produces more useful numbers than a lot of the software used to measure T/S. Keep in mind that T/S are curves not scalars and the numbers you get depend on where they are pulled off the curve.

The Subwoofer DIY Page - Measurements

dave
 
The cavity resonance in the hole causes colouration i do not like.
Doesn't resonances in the sealed space under the dust cap bother you? I find that much more annoying. It causes ringings in the mids. I treated the problem in several woofers by making holes in the cone under the dust cap. the results were pretty acceptable- and there were no pole piece "tube" resonances. The only problem this strategy will face is cone weakness towards mid-basses if digging too many holes.
 
Doesn't resonances in the sealed space under the dust cap bother you?

They can. Being a smaller space they will be higher in frequency.

We deal with it either by taking the dustcap off and installing phase plugs or by making the dustcap more opaque to stuff behind the dust cap. At least some of the drivers we use also have vented voice coils.

dave
 
Thank you all for replies. Now I know which way to go with my new pair of vintage woofers. There's only one question not answered, and that's whether making holes in cone or spider any advantageous. I guess no one has much experience with this kind of thing. Any ideas on it is appreciated, because I use this technique a lot.
 
I vote no
Could you please be more specific?
The side effects are dust and small iron particles get into the gap. and the cone and spider weakness.
On the other hand, you get extra ventilation, lower Fs, extra efficiency and more low freq linearity especially in bigger boxes like car trunk (where I use this technique to push stock car speakers to their limits).
 
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