would a tonearm become a variable mass tonearm if one were to cut a slot in an arm tube and fit a weight inside the arm tube with a bolt holding it in position so one could slide the weight up and down the arm tube?
my reckoning is that sliding the weight up towards the yoke would allow for heavier cartridges while sliding it towards the headshell would allow for lighter cartridges.
or am I being stupid again.. lol
my reckoning is that sliding the weight up towards the yoke would allow for heavier cartridges while sliding it towards the headshell would allow for lighter cartridges.
or am I being stupid again.. lol
Not sure what you are trying to achieve?
If you want to vary the effective mass of the tonearm, put some blutac on top of the headshell. Vary the amount of blutac to suit.
If you want to vary the effective mass of the tonearm, put some blutac on top of the headshell. Vary the amount of blutac to suit.
The SME series III allowed for variable mass by adding, or subtracting, lead weights in the counter weight. They were added to the front of the assembly, with the remaining space in the counter weight assembly filled by 'hollow' plastic spacers.
So, I'd say you aren't being stupid at all, just perhaps didn't have the best way to do it.
So, I'd say you aren't being stupid at all, just perhaps didn't have the best way to do it.
Hello Bibio
Never think of yourself as being stupid!
Soundsmith provides a set of cartridge mounting thumb screw pairs, (no screw driver required) that are progressively heavier. They are made from Delrin, aluminum, stainless steel and brass.
I think they know what they're doing.
Sincerely,
Ralf
Never think of yourself as being stupid!
Soundsmith provides a set of cartridge mounting thumb screw pairs, (no screw driver required) that are progressively heavier. They are made from Delrin, aluminum, stainless steel and brass.
I think they know what they're doing.
Sincerely,
Ralf
ok further to my silly idea. how about the same weight but used as the VTF. so you would attach the cartridge then balance the arm with the sliding arm tube weight at the back of the arm but use the stub weight to balance. once balanced then slide the arm tube weight to desired VTF. that way the armtube would always be the correct mass for the cartridge.
i suppose working out the correct weight for the internal balance weight would be the headache.
i suppose working out the correct weight for the internal balance weight would be the headache.
Mayware Formula 4 arms had a sliding weight which made the equivalent mass adjustable. Hit images.google.com and you'll see how they did it.
The SME III with high compliant MM vintage classics such as Grace F-9 sounds absolutely fabulous 😉
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yes same idea but mine would be internal so i guess it would work 🙂
do they
tbh, i'm not a lover of S shaped arms
The Funk Firm's F6 has a similar arrangement to the Mayware -the cylindrical weight can be moved up and down the arm tube. Not sure why you would want to mess around with this though. There are many other variables which are more significant in my view.
Chris
Chris
Something like this?
Tonearm with sliding weight on armwand, Abis.
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Old school tonearm, Audio Technica AT-1005.
Tonearm with sliding weight on armwand, Abis.
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Old school tonearm, Audio Technica AT-1005.
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Yes, variable mass tonearms can be build.
However, they are usually not that practical as you might think. It is not easy to build a really low mass tonearm; most tonearms with a removable headshell already have an effective mass of 15g or so. 15g is already considered medium mass and adding to that is most of the time not required (and can be done with a heavier headshell).
Building a 7-8g eff. mass tonearm and make it variable mass would be great, but doesn't exist as far as I know.
Finally, don't forget that the position of the counterweight will also be very different for low mass and high mass tonearms. For the low mass tonearm it will need to be very close to the pivot, which is also difficult mechanically.
Hannes
However, they are usually not that practical as you might think. It is not easy to build a really low mass tonearm; most tonearms with a removable headshell already have an effective mass of 15g or so. 15g is already considered medium mass and adding to that is most of the time not required (and can be done with a heavier headshell).
Building a 7-8g eff. mass tonearm and make it variable mass would be great, but doesn't exist as far as I know.
Finally, don't forget that the position of the counterweight will also be very different for low mass and high mass tonearms. For the low mass tonearm it will need to be very close to the pivot, which is also difficult mechanically.
Hannes
"Finally, don't forget that the position of the counterweight will also be very different for low mass and high mass tonearms. For the low mass tonearm it will need to be very close to the pivot, which is also difficult mechanically."
It´s easy with the SME III
It´s easy with the SME III
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