Vanishing Bee Catastrophe

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Hello M50, Interesting post. I have studied this a little, but not in depth. I have a friend who started bee keeping this last spring/summer, so I have a bit of a personal interest, since he is a close friend. It's kind of weird to think about, but who knows what will happen if there is a major die off of bees to pollinate the majority of our plant species, especially our food crops.

Peace,

Dave
 
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Albert Einstein once said : “If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man.”
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http://www.december212012.com/articles/Albert-Einstein/Vanishing_Bee.htm

You have to be careful with quotes from Einstein, a lot of people in the media claim things came from Einstein which didn't really come from him. Einstein makes a lot of people rich. He's the fifth highest paid dead celebrity.

http://discovermagazine.com/2008/mar/05-einstein-inc

http://www.forbes.com/2007/10/26/to...-cz_lg_1029celeb_slide_6.html?thisSpeed=20000
 
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I've been looking into this Einstein and anti-aether mania for at least 30 years. I found a lot of interesting books in the library in the 1980's which discuss aether theories and relativity, and came to the conclusion that there isn't enough information to say the aether doesn't exist. More recently, I found that the internet is a good source for this type of information and where to find it in books and articles.

I found this recently:
http://books.google.com/books?id=U2mO4nUunuwC&pg=PA167&dq=lorentz+subtle+is+the+lord+born

At the bottom of the page it says:
**According to Born, 'Lorentz...probably never became a relativist at all, and only paid lip service to Einstein, to avoid arguments'.
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Also:

When I visited Lorentz a few years before his death, his skepticism had not changed…he probably never became a relativist at all, and only paid lip-service to Einstein at times in order to avoid argument.
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http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath571/kmath571.htm

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Here's an interesting book I found.

Progress in Space-Time Physics 1987
Edited by James Paul Wesley

A review of the book from Foundations of Physics, Vol. 19, No. 2, 1989
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/2063601/Phipps-BookReview-1989.pdf

Progress in Space-Time Physics preface to page 35
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/2063601/PSTPpreface-35.pdf

pages 269-273 Book Review
Einstein's Relativity the Greatest Fallacy in the Twentieth Century
by Sharad D. Tipnis
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/24/2063601/Morgan269-273.pdf
 
#9
Note the part here in the "Relativity Revolution" chapter of The Farce of Physics by Bryan G. Wallace.

"Two scientists were dismissed because they discovered some facts which contradicted Einstein. It is not only dangerous to speak against Einstein, but which is worse it is impossible to publish anything which might be considered as contradiction to his theory."
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http://surf.de.uu.net/bookland/sci/farce/farce_7.html#SEC7

More here: http://www.geocities.com/sciliterature/RelativityDebates.htm
 
#11
Boys, how we could be able to decide it, Einstein has truth, or not. Since we do not understand it possibly the Theory of Relativity. His wife wrote it supposedly anyway. (Yet an urban legend, or not after all? We were not there.) Totally all the same.
I know it however, that cursed the aether theories.
I know it, for some time past it is said, that the bigger part of the universe dark energy, and dark matter.
The man is dark mostly according to my opinion.
The nature gives a cough only one, and we are already nowhere!
It would not be necessary to take it too lightly.

Gyuri

It is enough trouble that we get lost in the life already without GPS.
I though not, while the stars shows yet.
 
#13
My head hurts.

The President of the Bureau International des Poids et Mesures in Paris (which sets the rules for these synchronisation) wrote to me and said "You are right in stating that the Sagnac effect is not relativistic"!
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From that link.

Ummm.... no. This is entirely a US-administered system. The "rules" (whatever that means) are set by the US Air Force. Here's the standards document for your amusement.

http://gps.afspc.af.mil/gpsoc/documents/PPS_PS_Signed_Final_23_Feb_07.pdf
 
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SY said:
My head hurts.



From that link.

Ummm.... no. This is entirely a US-administered system. The "rules" (whatever that means) are set by the US Air Force. Here's the standards document for your amusement.

http://gps.afspc.af.mil/gpsoc/documents/PPS_PS_Signed_Final_23_Feb_07.pdf
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I read something before about the Europeans setting up their own GPS system.

You can google Bureau International des Poids et Mesures gps
and see what comes up.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Bureau+International+des+Poids+et+Mesures+gps&btnG=Search
 
#17
I did.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel3/4090/12100/00560312.pdf?temp=x shows the predictions from relativity (nonetheric) to be better than 10ppb.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel1/19/12386/00571812.pdf?temp=x shows corrections to be better than 1 part in 10e17.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1997PhRvA..56.4405W shows similar extraordinary accuracy of nonetheric correction.

How many more cites do you need before you get the idea that this stuff you're citing is sheer crank?
 
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