One would hope it does but I sometimes wonder.SY said:
There is much to suggest that if this discourse does indeed take place, those charged with making the decisions are either simpletons, dishonest or both and are totally oblivious of or, more likely, indifferent to the fact that one can compare what they say with what they do.
The problem is, he is running on a 'jobs in the USA' platform of stopping the movement of jobs from the US to other countries. Well, if he can't even keep his own wife from outsourcing how can he keep the rest of the companies from doing it? Walmart is killing the American dream by forcing small business that is the true backbone of America out of business and forcing wages down with no benefits making the state pick up health care. There is no good in just low prices.Bas Horneman said:
Long may you prosper too Mike!!!!!
Let's allAmericans join in please
What is the problem here? It's called free enterprise (A very American type of thing) If there is one company that is responsible for american jobs going to China it is that quintessential American company....Wall Mart! That's right... Wall Mart as American as apple pie.
Out of every 7 dollars spent in America one is spent in Wall Mart. Wall Mart squeezes the american production sector until they cannot survive...They are left with only 2 choices....bankruptcy or move production to China. (Not supplying Wall Mart is not an option once you started supplying them)
For the person that said there is no benifit to lower taxes, I say 'wrong!'. I make decent money (100k+) and I get much more in each check than I did under the past regime. I take home more, I spend more feeding the economy where it helps. You can feed the ecomomy or feed state welfare, I like making people work for things not have them given as charity through taxes.
For those of you in the UK, I dont see your system of social welfare doing well, do you? Your economy is not growing at all, ours is. Our unemployment rate is the same as it was during Clinton's years even after the tech bubble and 9/11. You are just jealous of America's better life and higher standard of living, better doctors, and superpower status, all of which you once had. England has become a shell of it's former self due to government over regulation and taxation, how sad. High taxes strangle the economy just like they did to England.
Bush might not be eloquent but at least doesnt speak out of both sides of his mouth like Kerry. Kerry has changed his view of everything at least three times depending on what the polls tell him to say. Bush and Kerry also graduated from the same college with the same grades. Both belong to 'skull and bones' at Yale. So Kerry is no smarter than Bush, after all he married that nasty woman Hienz.
You are entitled to your opinion, I'm glad you cant vote here.
markp said:
Come now markp, you are beginning to sound like the steeotypical american...the playground sort....
markp said:
Bush is an established liar....Period.
markp said:
Markp...have you noticed that NO non-american on this forum actually has ANY respect fo BUSH?
I reckon this is a case of no smoke without fire...don't you?
Hi,
So by the same logic vote for the one you already know screwed up?
What a sad state of affairs where there are only two candidates left, neither of one is actually decent from what I see....
How did these guys got this far in the running in the first place??
What happened to the rest of the bunch or isn't there anyone at least half decent left????
Strange how so few American citizens notice this....
Cheers,
So by the same logic vote for the one you already know screwed up?
What a sad state of affairs where there are only two candidates left, neither of one is actually decent from what I see....
How did these guys got this far in the running in the first place??
What happened to the rest of the bunch or isn't there anyone at least half decent left????
Strange how so few American citizens notice this....
Cheers,
fdegrove said:
I was a strong supporter of Dean. He had a vision, and he got people excited about politics. Maybe you didn't agree with him, but he brought energy to the field that I hadn't ever seen before. Its hard to get passionate about Kerry or Bush. I think those who voted for Kerry in the primaries did so more out of a hatred for Bush than agreement with Kerry. I think he can still be a good candidate if he will play on his own terms. Show us some policies, some agendas, a vision, instead of playing defense against Bush.
Strange how so few American citizens notice this....
Cheers,
well... living here, you don't hear about the rest of the world unless you look for it. I listen to BBC world news but thats only on at midnight. Anything else is just quick sound bites, usually the result of death or tragedy.
Evan
Evaas said:
That i reckon is the crux of the problem....the parochial insularity of the average American gives Washington virtual carte blanche to lie and abuse American power abroad with impunity....
Why sooooooooo many Americans chose to be soooooooo ignorant of what is done in their name is a huge mystery....considering that the relevant info is readily available on the net. and elsewhere....
markp said:
Here in a nutshell is the kind of nonsense one has come to expect but not just from politicians it would seem. The growth figures of the UK economy and the downward trend of the UK unemployment figures are freely available from independent sources but do you bother to check? Of course not. It would seem that like your president, you too consider ignorance to be a virtue.
rfbrw said:
And then there's his claim that unemployment is the same in the US now as it was in the Clinton administration. Millions of jobs have been lost during the Bush administration. That's a fact. Saying otherwise isn't an opinion, it's a lie. And there are also the new overtime regulations that deny overtime pay to millions more, mostly middle-class Americans. And who does this benefit, exactly, aside from Bush's campaign contributors? I am also an American in the same income bracket as markp, so I hope people don't generalize and think that all Americans that meet certain criteria share his "views".
Hum, while I don't think he's a genius and probably wouldn't vote for him if I were in the USA, I've still some "kind of" respect for him. Isn't the Economist an english magazine ? They still show some respect for him last time I checked (yesterdaymikeks said:
)I hope it doesn't make me stupid. That'd be bad for my future, being a political scientist by formation
00940 said:
Hum, while I don't think he's a genius and probably wouldn't vote for him if I were in the USA, I've still some "kind of" respect for him. Isn't the Economist an english magazine ? They still show some respect for him last time I checked (yesterday
No surprise there as the Economist is all for the unfettered free market. It would not surprise me to find that it laments the passing of the slave trade, child labour and the dark satanic mills that used to exist in the UK or is completely in favour of this headlong rush towards lower and lower standards of employment through globalisation.
while we can argue and probably agree to a certain extent on what exactly the Economist stands for, that's not the point.
The point was "not a single european" has "any" respect for Bush. Well, unless some are really european and some aren't, this invalidates this affirmation.
Not that I care much about who likes Bush or who don't, but I hate when people speak in my name.
The point was "not a single european" has "any" respect for Bush. Well, unless some are really european and some aren't, this invalidates this affirmation.
Not that I care much about who likes Bush or who don't, but I hate when people speak in my name.
Hi,
What was meant, I think< was that so far no European member of this forum has expressed ab opinion in favour of GWB.
Which essentially makes you the first....
Which in turn makes me wonder what exactly it is you find so respectable about GWB in his current position as president of the U.S. of A that is.
Not just lower standards of employment IMHO but decline of standards in general...
There's a word for that but I'll keep it for myself for the time being.
Cheers,
What was meant, I think< was that so far no European member of this forum has expressed ab opinion in favour of GWB.
Which essentially makes you the first....
Which in turn makes me wonder what exactly it is you find so respectable about GWB in his current position as president of the U.S. of A that is.
Not just lower standards of employment IMHO but decline of standards in general...
There's a word for that but I'll keep it for myself for the time being.
Cheers,
Ok, so what ARE you latest numbers? Which way is the trend going and at what rate? I don't see people by the thousand trying to get into England like they do here, they are looking for jobs that they can find here and not in thier home countries. Millions of jobs were lost due to the tech bubble burst, that was hardly Bush's fault. 911 was not his fault either nor was the rest of the worlds crappy economy. Outsourcing began way before Bush and due to high corporate taxes inpart it was sped up by Clinton. Where do you get your info from, you socialist state run media who are hardly unbiased. Remember we saved your whole continent and since then you have resented us for being better than you are, get used to it. The Chinese flood of cheap goods has hurt the economy and the only way to stop it is to levy high tariffs or stop trade which is not possible. Our way of life cant be run on $1/hr like thiers can so they win out if we dont stop buying thier products and buy domestic at a higher cost. Life is not fair, there will be rich there will be poor. It is not the governments job to change that it is up to the individual to create thier own destiny. Where in the constitution does it say we all get paid the same or must have the same financial status? Where does it say healthcare is a right or should be state run? Life is not fair, too bad.rfbrw said:
markp said:
Then you're not looking very closely.
http://search.cnn.com/pages/search/...true&Page=1&QueryText=sangatte&query=sangatte
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